president. chavez called it a pleasant moment and said they discussed specific issues. the state department is a little more vogue except on the question of a hug. >> was there anything of substance? did they talk about ambassadors, that kind of thing? >> it was very brief. i actually don't know, you know, what -- what was talked asglout did they shake hands? was it a hand shake, a bear hug? >> it's been described as a hand shake. i have no reason to -- i'm sure it was not a hug. >> a little pressing there. so no hug. that's pretty interesting, the two of them in the same room, exchanged a few pleasantries. >> that's right. thanks very much. texting, tweeting and e-mailing. are they replacing all human interaction? jack is back with your answers. and the day the birds fell like rain. jeanne moos finding it most unusual. ♪