to lose? meaning, what do you have to lose if you vote for trump? now it was just reported that african-american unemployment is at its lowest level in history. i'm very proud of that. >> bakari, i know you feel strongly about this. what's your thoughts? >> he's a condescending liar, that's first. if you want a more intellectual answer, the fact is that the black unemployment rate when barack obama took office was about 16.8, if i'm not mistaken. when barack obama left office it was cut in half -- >> 16.1 in 2009. it was 7.8 in january of 2007. now it's at 6.8. so it was already falling. it's just fallen like -- >> what we saw was -- we saw -- precip tously is the s.a.t. word i would like to use, don. falling precipitously. the president of the united states, the 44th president of the united states, put in policies that actually saw the