official, a country and a leader that are hostile to the united states, over u.s. intelligence agencies? >> well, usually president of the united states try to steer clear of kgb agents and not talk to them at all but as president of the united states, no, this is unprecedented and i think the stupefy case that you're finding around this country and also around the world is scary to people here in europe. to hear this. and they're going to be relying more on their own themselves again or a while back when he started this insult tour. but i think this put him -- he was so much on a world stage. everybody was watching. a big moment in the presidency and he fell on his face in terms of his argument and made it very clear that for psychological reasons, because he has something to hide, who knows why? he sides with the russians over americans starting with intelligence.