why would you give it any creed sne -- credence? >> the president is a counterpuncher here. we all know that. he can't sit by when -- >> that's a lame excuse. such a lame excuse. >> i'd like to hear from both you and symone about why the dnc remains silent about a really serious issue. >> we're looking at the allegations right now. i have to know what it's about before i start going with it. it's a standard that sometimes people don't like to apply. but we like to know what we're talking about. this is what i'm talking about with you, dave. >> can i respond to something that dave said in. >> go ahead. >> there's an issue here. to dismiss what the president said about omarosa today -- and i'm no fan of omarosa. >> i'm not dismissing it. >> but to say there are far bigger things we should be talking about as though the president calling a woman a dog, as though the president using language -- >> it's wrong. sim opymon symone, it's wrong. i said it. >> i want to reiterate, though, this speaks to a larger pattern of the president.