college? >> thomas: i didn't go to the college. >> anthony: why not? >> thomas: most professors are way behind the, uh, the -- the development speed of the communities. >> anthony: why? your -- >> thomas: because -- >> anthony: your country is so advanced in so many other ways, why in this area? >> thomas: it's a network problem here in china. uh, we have the gfw. it's a great firewall and it blocked a lot of, uh, important information websites inside china and a lot of people they cannot get the cutting-edge technologies. >> anthony: right. >> thomas: which we don't teach in college at all. >> anthony: mm-hmm. >> thomas: and, uh, so the human resource problem and the manpower problem is more and more serious, getting more and more serious here in china. >> anthony: because everyone is going to the silicon valley. >> thomas: uh, they offer better. >> anthony: right. >> thomas: obviously. oh, here they did -- >> anthony: oh, these are the famous ribs? >> thomas: yes. >> anthony: maybe the number one thing that the seriously food-crazed traveler coming back from shanghai will tell you to eat, other than the soup dumplings of course, zi ran pai gu, or simply, cumin ribs. ♪