that immigration has and continues to make this country a better, stronger, more productive, and vibrant country. that's why you're here, i'm here. that's why we do what we do, because of immigration in this country. some of us immigrated through slavery, didn't want to come here. some, your ancestors, wanted to come here. but we're all better for it at this juncture. >> diversity is our greatest strength. it always has been. again, on the coin, e pluribus unum, one out of many. but you know what? as long as that has been true, so has its ugly opposite. people have been trying to divide this country on the basis of the us and the them for a long time. what tucker carlson does is not new, and you said he's your colleague. i worked at fox news. it was my first real job in this business. i worked for roger ailes. >> he once worked here too. >> i didn't work with him. i don't consider him my colleague. i think the trump trio are in a different business than the one that i'm in. they have different tactics. they have different reasons for doing it, and they have different goals of what they're trying to do. so i don't consider him a colleague. it doesn't mean he doesn't have the right to say it, but so do