turned to conservatism since about 1980. it has been a very long time indeed, since any american president has had a successful run governing -- trying to govern as a pure liberal. jimmy carter didn't. bill clinton certainly didn't. barack obama tried it for two years. and it hasn't gone very well it has made it very difficult for the left's ambitions to be fulfilled and i think that they found that it is frustrating and it has made -- it has led to a level of anger that we are now seeing in part. >> bill: what do you think the editors of the "the washington post," they are sitting there in their monday meeting today or if they showed up to work tomorrow they have two use this other guy from "the washington post" with bernie goldberg later on. just days after president obama said look, why don't you guys knock it off go. out there and say palin is stupid. this, that -- continuing to bang the drum. the "the washington post," under financial pressure, all right? had to get rid of post