>> no. in that if it made liberals look bad as this clearly did, they would have less interest in it than if it made a conservative look bad. but, can i -- let me comment briefly on what david brooks said. david brooks is a supreme court, thoughtful guy. and if what he means by that is that there is no blatant bias on a regular basis, on npr newscasts, i don't have a problem with that conclusion. that's fine with me. but i think david brooks misses a much more important point. and that is that nobody could argue that there is a liberal sensibility at npr. >> bill: see, he is inneurod to that because he works in a place where there is a liberal sensibility "new york times" and he doesn't mind that he has a happy home there. >> you are absolutely right. but the point is that the liberal sensibility matters. it matters in that it determines