what we saw this week from the democrats, you talk about the white house. the democrats flew over to the white house to say, what are you talking about? you're willing to make significant cuts in terms of medicare, medicaid, social security, you are putting our political fortunes at risk? this is not what we want. you saw move on, you saw aarp. saw afl-cio. sdiu, all engaged their members to absolutely zoom in on congress with phone calls and lobbying to say stop the president from giving up everything to the republicans. one last point here. i'm amazed, you heard the speaker of the house say, you know, we have moved the goal post in terms of a president who didn't want to make significant cuts who is now willing to make significant cuts. why don't republicans say, you know, we have won this fight. it's time to move on and not push the country over the edge? >> that's one view. we're going to take a break here and we're going to continue the conversation. one of the interesting things that came out from both geithner and from boehner is