difference in that report. >> bill: that's fallacious. you can raise revenue, more revenue and we showed it yesterday. bush had much more revenue coming in because the economy was good. and you can raise it by a flat tax and other things. taxing the rich isn't going to do it. i'm sighting with you and not erica. i don't want to gang up on erica. that's not fair. i sincerely believe that this country now is at the breaking point. that you can't spend any more money yet president obama doesn't seem to believe that that is the simplicity that i'm trying to bring to this argument. so, is there something here i'm missing from your point of view? >> >> well, i think what is really, really missing the point is that business owners are at their wits end. they are now. >> business owners are. >> bill: wait. >> it is not worth it they are talking about closing up. they are saying let me cash out of everything. >> bill: they are not hiring. that's for sure.
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