vicki between what you guys have and the woodstock crew that lives off in vermont some place free love, hey, what's the difference? >> i guess i'm not even familiar with that i know what free love and polly am morery. maybe to ha loft people there might not be a difference. to me it's a part of my faith. it's how i want to live. >> bill: what faith is that? >> we consider ourselves independent fundamentalists mormons. we worship in our homes separate we don't belong to a church. >> bill: you were raised in that kind of a family. >> yeah. >> joe you were raised that way too and valerie you all have that background. >> yeah. >> it goes back five generations for me. >> bill: all right, guys. the book is love times three. we appreciate you coming on. >> thank you for your time. >> bill: come right back lou dobbs on the wall street protesters. do they have any legitimate points? nancy pelosi sympathizing with the the far left very lots.