way out of debt. >> and peter schiff is an american businessman, he says the government is stifling production and he shared his opinion with the the anti-wall street protesters earlier this week. >> how much do you think i could pay, what would be fair for me? >> i don't know, i can't tell you that. i believe in-- >> i'd like the same as everybody. >> well, that would be a huge tax cut for me, i pay much more than 35%. >> what do you think to pay. >> and i employed-- >> well, these two gentlemen don't mince words. daniel hannan the author of the "the new road to serfdom", and daniel schiff i don't how an economy grows and why it crashes". thank you, welcome back to the show. daniel, let me start with you, because i want to ask you about what's going on in europe and how much you think that is mirroring, what is taking place and is perhaps