>> all is he say something none of my top people. >> bill: do you remember hogan's heros. >> i know nothing. >> bill: i know nothing. if you and i were on that committee you would be skeptical. why don't you turn over the documents to us so we can see for ourselves. >> he has said some other things that he then had to retract and draw back they caught him in a fewerrers he would say they claim it's lies. >> bill: bottom line is holder doesn't know or says he doesn't know. >> right. you and i, kelly and o'reilly two irish congressional people say okay we are ready to believe you like the ghostbusters but we want your documentation pertaining to the case. just give them to us, please. >> it's not only about whether holder is misleading it's who did. we want to see for ourselves who authored it? atf in phoenix couldn't have done this without doj approval. >> the reason congress wants to know is this is being done in the name of the people.