>> first of all, i'm a white woman as you notice i know there are many in the african-american community that think he has not done enough especially in the african-american communities when you look at still not enough opportunity for employment rates in communities. however, i would say that he scores higher than any other president because he will speak out and tackle these issues. and my good buddy chris will get on him for this. but he speaks out in favor of the police the community is mad. speaks out in favor of the community, the police are mad. i think he's doing the best that he can, and he has to be color blind to a degree. >> i got to wrap it there, chris. leslie's done a good job with a loaded question there. leslie thanks. chris, we'll see is you. after baltimore, a court for the lawyer representing freddie gray caught my eye. giving reasoning why some black