accountability, to continue -- so,like, the gao said the irs isn't targeting right now. my argument is they are not targeting because of the bright lights of the whole country and a very aggressive oversight effort coming on behalf of the members of congress. that are all over this thing. >> so you think the president knows there was targeting? >> listen, the president admitted that there was a problem at the irs. and now he is trying to argue in the alternative later on, it was a ridiculous thing to be on that show and make that false claim. it's not a credible claim to say there is not a smidgen of evidence and there is no problem here. >> i think donald trump would probably use harcher language about it. >> he would larcher language. we should ask him. >> john kerry digs in his heels over his and president obama's nuclear deal with iran. senator john thune is here. that's next. plus is this the end for sanctuary cities? congressman trey gowdy is fired up no and ready to go "on the record" straight ahead.