of course -- >> bill: why would you stand behind them? >> as trump said, or a spokesman spicer said, there was an eroding trust factor with general flynn. that was likely because a vice president pence. the process taking apart general fund because of his conversations with russia, which i don't think amount to a hill of beans. "the new york times" article was extensive. i read it three separate times, they alluded to accusations of a possible fbi involvement. >> bill: "the new york times" doesn't know, you don't know, rivera doesn't know, i don't know -- >> he has been excoriated in the press. these two things aren't mutually exclusive. >> bill: i don't know if -- if he is being treated unfairly, and you were the president, rivera, oh, my god, -- >> i would be and less of a jump in our front president trump is right now. number one -- if you did not complain about hacks and leaks

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