what president trump said and would mean substantial tax break for the upper-income people? >> we don't tax enough. the tax rates, percentage of the economy is well above the historic norm and the only way we are going to get out of the debt problems is first we need to do entitlement reform. chris: the president is not doing yet. >> direction of maybe doing so and we need to grow the economy. he's come out with this big tax reform plan and two, he's put out with a great plan and real action to roll back to regulate oirs. chris: wouldn't you agree that this plan would add trillions to the national debt? >> there's trillions added to the national debt because we are spending way too much. chris: you're not answering my question. i'm not saying -- you could argue that he needs spending cuts as well, would you agree that this cut with all the cuts in revenue will add trillions to the debt? >> it would move revenues to where they are today approaching
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