230 million muslims. spread over 17,000 islands. it's a vast country. perfect place to hideout. long tradition of religious tolerance except in the far west, special case always radical. but now i've seen and been there and seen them getting more radicalized every year. traditionally indonesians practice a hybrid forms of islam. now the saudi money and gulf money is pouring in. terrorists are moving there. trouble coming every day. >> bill: we have this from admiral of the commander of the pacific courses. it's a wake-up call for every nation in the pacific. they're using combat tactics. the first time isis inspired forces have been together on this kind of scale. you suggest that geography is fate. how come? >> look where these countries