and often in a commercial area coming after companies two. it is a constant war that our intelligence agencies have to fight. there were problems with china which has a huge hacking operation that they use to go after americans. there is a lot we need to do about this but -- >> arthel: nothing specific in terms of what we should do about russia. quickly, should the president meet with vladimir putin? yes or no. >> i don't really have an answer but i think he has already said he is going to confront vladimir putin over it although the russians obviously are denying they had anything to do with this. >> arthel: will keep talking about this. we appreciate your perspective, thank you hans von spakovsky. >> eric: meanwhile new reaction ahead of the presidents meeting with vladimir putin on monday. not all lawmakers on board with the summit. some democrats have been calling for the president to scrap meeting with vladimir putin because of those federal election interference charges. >> i want to make sure that other americans here, that the