government has to prove by clear and convincing evidence that the person is disturbed, a danger to themselves or others. and if that test is met, they can seize the guns and get person the help they need. what i want to do is encourage these laws with robust due process and i think that's the president's goal also. >> that is the president's goal. that's all the federal government can do is encourage these laws and pay the states to do it. the feds can't order the states to do these things. there are half a dozen states that have these laws now. the neighbor complains. you are using a gun in the backyard and you are angry as you are using it. that is not a basis to take the gun away. that is not a basis to deprive somebody of their rights. brian: would you think an effective tool from this experience would be to make public these records of high school kids with kill lists and i know minors, everything gets buried once you become -- >> i have a problem with the word public. the database is not public. they could put this stuff in