and if we go to the bank and try to get money out and if it's not us, it's fraud. if we fry to check into a hotel and use a phony name it's fraud. go the other congressman. what about arizona? why does states try to get into the business the federal government is into? which is protecting us from illegal immigration. >> well, i think the same reason they're involved in the drug war, too, chris, is that this is a community problem. it's not just a washington, d.c. concern or just a border problem. this is something across border. you can imagine how successful we'd number fighting the -- of drug dealers if we just said well, local government's not going to be involved, we will not allow the counties and cities involved, we'll do this all, just the federal government and you know it has to be a coordinated community effort across the board, and any kind of enforcement effort. this is the basis of community enforcements. >> yeah, okay. a problem, suppose you are a second generation mexican-american, from columbia or somewhere, and you have an hispanic look, you're do, complexion, whatever you, may have something about you that indicates you from that part of