we're tough as hell on them every day. i think i've criticized them every day on economic policies and yet we're great friends with people at the white house. >> they push back sometimes. sometimes we're wrong. >> that's the great thing about keeping the conversation going and being civil because when i go over the line, which i do from time to time, or they screw up, guess what? we do what jim demint and i did. maybe i shouldn't have said that and then jim on the other side says you know what? maybe i need to -- we both said we need to guard our words more carefully. that's what it is all about. >> having said that it's amusing that no labels is being vilified as -- >> it is something as bland as saying let's be respectful of other people is offending people on the left and right. >> offensive to those who make money making trouble. >> reading his column -- i thought you were fine with him on the show sunday. frank had every right to say what he said.