laden but a record number of predator drone strikes, three times as many as we saw in the last year of the bush administration when then president bush stepped it up. so this is part of an overall strategy that obama's been pursuing for some time. one of the things i report is that there was a meeting, you know, early on in 2009 where panetta went to obama and said, look, these are the things we need in pakistan -- additional facilities, additional predators. obama said you're getting it all. i want you to have it all. this is part of a bigger picture, alex. >> what's fascinating is what you just said. you think this would have been the same doctrine from the bush administration. president bush said i want to get osama bin laden. and yet you say that despite the last year of stepped-up prone -- predator drone attacks, rather, there was that going on. what did not happen in the bush administration and why? >> well, one big difference is that obama very early on, you know, criticized bush, even back