>> then you don't have it for your employees. they are all out to lunch. >> exactly. >> no birth control protection. >> exactly. it goes beyond contraception. the motivation, i think, was contraception. and we're happy to debate that issue. but the legislation goes so far, if an employer says i don't believe in vaccination, you can't get insurance for a vaccination. it's way beyond contraception. >> in fact, you could say vaccination is dangerous, therefore, it's a moral issue. you're right. it's all across the board. senator schumer, thanks for coming on. earlier today, andrea mitchell asked maine senator olympia snowe who is retiring at the end of this term whether she supports this blunt amendment to give this opt-out to any employer or employee based on any kind of moral concern. here's what she said, senator snowe. >> it's interesting we're having the whole debate on contraception and, you know, what should constitute coverage and what kind of role does the federal government play because i was involved in this issue