opportunity later in life, you literally end up with a criminal record. >> right. i'm almost as shocked not at the incident itself but at the fact all these years have passed and evidently according to "the washington post," according to anything we know so far, he never called john lauber and said went a little overboard that day, never expressed to his confederates in the mission that we shouldn't have done that, we were wrong to do that. that's more of a shock than doing it. then his handling of it this week, pretty abyss mal. >> listen do what he said about it being a hate crime, about the sexual orientation and his general feelings about it. he said this on fox news. >> first of all, i had no idea what that individual's sexual orientation might be, going back to the 1960s, that wasn't

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