about the german health care system. i think he probably won the argument. >> what president clinton said is absolutely true. to know the man is to like the man. because he's comfortable in his own skin. he knows who he is. he doesn't put on any pretenses. he takes his job seriously, but he doesn't take himself too seriously. he is a good man. >> there, again, i mean, there's george w. cracking a joke about not knowing something, as his victory statement. hey, he like me, don't know anything more than you do about these things. we elect this genius president, obama, he has his shortcomings, too. it's always back and forth. >> that's the story of the count country. >> do we want an intellectual president? do we want a guy who's intellectually pointy headed? we got one in bush sort of -- sorry, in clinton and obama. >> the country responded to bush in 2008, but look, i think if there's going to be a bush