who will vote for me. >> well, in a wide primary, that makes sense, michael. a wide primary. what's he need to get into the runoff? 35? 40? >> no, he could score somewhere in the low 20s even and make into it the second part because it's such a splintered field this year. >> really? you'd have to beat out thompson who never seems to get above 20. so you'd have to squeak above thompson, go in against quinn. and he wouldn't be able to beat her, would he? >> i don't think so. you got to the think about his priorities going into the race. everything breaks his way, becomes mayor of new york city. but more realistically, he has a respectable showing in the polls, he brings back his credibility as a politician who can, you know, go on tv, have a job in and out of government. right now he's back to square one. >> he's using the public at subway stops and on media interviews to bathe himself of his troubles. in other words, the more exposure which has always been his game anyway, the more he gets with us, it sort of cleans him. this air bath he's taking right now. at the end he comes out second