the deep south, and the blue states who are implementing obama care are actually the ones who put more in taxes into the country in the first place than they take out. it will be a much wealthier operation. >> yeah, dr. dyson, i see what dana's talking about nut-ification. it's not just south carolina. 11 states have enacted nullification laws. 11 conservative counties in colorado are voting on exactly that today. they want to create a 51st state. and a lot of right wing media pundits have been pushing the secession idea since president obama first was elected. listen to this. >> i'm not for secession, but i understand why people might be. >> in the end if you're going to jam all this stuff down our throats, then maybe it would be about secession. some people would probably say, yeah, i think maybe it's time to get out of this. >> this is a reasonable woman,