it was so something so profoundly large in his spirit and the way he addressed even those of us who were younger reporters. the foreign press core always with respect and grace. >> we are moments away from president obama going to give some words to the world here from the white house on the passing of nelson mandela. again, this man must have admired america and the struggle in our country. did he want to use that as a model for freedom in south africa? how close was he to the american dream? >> very much so. he liked to come here and he was close to a number of american presidents. i think he absorbed and modelled -- excuse me, my voice is choked up, but he absorbed freedom movements from around the world and made them applicable to south africa. he saw in bosnia, they had other