>> but people have health care. why is that a bad thing? >> government run health care doesn't run as effective -- >> if you didn't have health care -- hold on a second. >> how do we long term deal with that? i was involved in ten care, a small piece of the pie, a state-run health care system that obamacare, the massachusetts health care plan that obamacare was. they preloaded it. they had lots of savings. everybody got health care, then you know what happened five or six years later? it was eating up every new state dollar in the state of tennessee. and there was only one solution. the democrat governor had to turn away really hundreds of thousands of people to make the budget balance. if you look at this long term, adding everybody in the country to a government-run health care program -- >> chip, i actually want to go back and i want to play you an example of sort of what's going
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