going on here and it was and is. >> cohn is making perhaps i think made the mistake, people treat this man as if he's a 2-year-old. he can be humored and you make excuses for this. but he can be led in that of this direction. he's not a 2-year-old. he's a grown man who has been like this all his life. and knows exactly what he's doing. going back to the first story, he knows he's not supposed to talk to witnesses but -- >> okaying. > figures people will say trump will be trump. trump will indeed be trump. >> he's our president right now david jolly, somebody may go to the white house thinking they can put the president of the united states in a play pen and pacify him and keep him there while they run the place themselves. the president puts his staff people in play pens. gary cohn didn't think the job was big enough for him, trump thought it was and was unsatisfied. is this a 10% of whatever, are