resettlement releases a child, they wash their hands of that child so there's no follow-up, except occasionally a phone call within 30 days. the numbers are the number of times the phone call did not get through to anybody or revealed that the child was no longer living at that number. >> i mentioned the department of health and human services. how strained is it looking at the quantity of young children they are having to at least temporarily care for or find homes for, how difficult is it for them to do that just based on logistics alone? >> well, under normal circumstances they have a system of foster care, shelters, group hopes and security facilities where they place children and they're able to do that fairly reasonably and safely. the problem is that right now the trump administration is massively separating children from their parents and creating a whole new kind, let's say, of