and that is to bring the reality of this to light. and the reason why they don't want that to come to light is because it's ugly. it's really ugly. if you could accompany me to interview some of these mothers, and of course they won't allow you in the facilities, they won't allow any of the media in the facilities -- >> at least not with cameras. >> well, they won't even allow to you sit -- to be present while i interview one of these mothers. but if you had the ability to sit there while i interviewed these mothers and hear their stories, and if you had the ability to convey that to the american people, people would be even more outraged than they truly are. this is absolutely tragic. >> do you have the resources at your firm and the experience at your firm to handle big immigration portfolios for that many people? >> no question. we've also partnered up with a number of other immigration specialists with, you know, a considerable amount of experience. we've brought a lot of attention to this. we're going to continue to bring a lot of attention to it.