into tv campaign ads to make sure whoever he picks gets through. and there's going to be a lot of focus on those red state democrats. those like heidi heitkamp, joe donny, joe manchin who voted for gorsuch the 50 tifirst time aro but the calculations a little different heading into the midterm. >> it strikes many people that the selection of gorsuch and the process in selecting a supreme court nominee has been the best run operation of any of the operations in this white house with all the chaos in the cabinet and all the changes and the like. is this what we're expecting again? they know how to do this? >> you never like to predict in politics. yes, the federalist society and white house counsel don mcgahn came up with the list. yes, it worked with judge gorsuch. even how justice kennedy got on the court in 1987, after robert bjork, after ginsburg go through their whole episodes.