recent years. it may take time. i don't want to overstate or understate how difficult the problem may be. i'm pretty confident if the grains of sand are there to be looked at they will find -- they will use those grains of sand to find clues that will allow them to work upstream until they find this individual. >> final and broader question here, i want to be clear that, you know, politics is politics. it revolves around conflict, politicians criticize each other all the time, they attack their political opponents and foes all the time, they do it sometimes quite strenuously, that said as someone who worked in counterterrorism, who worked in the white house under barack obama and served under president trump before resigning, what effect does the president's rhetoric have on the country and on the job, the folks in counterterrorism trying to do? >> tough question, but the one thing i think that unites individuals who would carry out an international terrorist attack and those who would carry
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