both of these. >> do you say that because the democrats are taking over january 3rd? would you have said that earlier in this 2018 term? >> yes, in fact, i'm on the record saying that. >> this border wall makes no sense. it will allow congress to spend ourselves into oblivion. it will cost billions and billions. >> what's the alternative? >> high-tech options. high-tech options. >> we have to deal with the reality here, the democrats control the house in a matter of days, so the idea of spending billions and billions of dollars on a wall is dead. it's just simply not going to happen. and we need to start talking in realistic terms. now, amy is right, there could be a compromise where you see work on the dreamers, in