asking him to back off the mike flynn investigation, there isn't real debate whether the president offered a pardon to silence him on whether it would be a crime or not. remember, bill barr's confirmation hearing, he said, he outlined this expansive view of executive power where all the obstruction lines mueller is pursuing, none of them are a crime. but when asked about pardons, if he offered a pardon in exchange for a witness' silence, would that be a crime? he said yes. i think when we get to the end of the obstruction inquiry, the thing that's been most silent that we don't know anything about, i want to hear from mueller about, everything he did to try to shut down the investigation, did he cross the line either through his attorneys in offering a pardon to those two or in conversation with either directly with cohen, we know he had this conversation that cohen mentioned right, a couple months after the raid that he couldn't talk about at all. he mentioned his testimony but said it's under investigation. let's go -- >> go back to your -- >> area of -- >> common sense. there's a couple of guys out there that can hurt you. you, being the autocrat, the