>> right there is no comparable scandal that anyone can come up with. it is different and bigger in some ways. the collection of crooks, con men, and drifters at the highest level of nominee for president of the united states is breath taking. >> one of the things that comes to mind hearing the prescription of paul manafort, wheeled in, unshaven, it was three years ago when he was a totally other person that we all coffered and it is just, if you think back then. i think we're two years into a trump president sane his campaign manager would go to jail. and all of the other piece that's we have seen since. >> let's go to the pardon part of this. saul, if you were the lawyer for