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so in this data base, again, this place where pilots and first officers can report concerns and flight difficulty without worrying about career repercussions for themselves, they post this information and allow it to go into this data base, the end is blunt. captain reports auto pilot anomaly that lead to an undesired nose down brief situation. so these things -- i mean, these are out there in this public data base. quote, aircraft pitched nose down after engaging auto pilot on departure. and, you know, i am not a trained aviation professional, statistically speaking, neither are you but safety professionals, the world over are all having the same reaction to all of this news. as of today, the list of countries that has suspended all flights of this specific type of boeing aircraft includes the u.k., france, germany, australia, china, singapore, uea, kuwait, malaysia,

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