refused to do. and i found it. it's a powerful statement on the meaning of freedom of speech and freedom of the press. >> do you feel today given what we're all going through, it's an extraordinary time, i've never seen the kind of control on information, agency after agency, no pentagon briefings, very few state department briefings, no white house briefings, very little interaction, do you feel there's -- there are threats to press freedoms with the president using a stylist term enemy of the people? >> you know, speech is different from action and we both know a lot of administrations clamp down on the press in the ways that they can, but it's never been this blatant in terms of the enemies of the people line which is just chilling. >> the book is extraordinary. i was up half the night reading your book. >> sorry to keep you up. >> no, it's something that --