you see the video of him being whisked down the stairs while you see shouts at the capitol of "hang mike pence," his wife and daughter, and i would have had some pretty strong words. i probably would have gotten in the car and gone back to the white house and gotten in a fist fight with the president. i'd be back there on the desk saying more than you let me down, mr. president. i think that's the issue. mike pence is a decent human being, great guy, i got to spend a lot of time with him. i think people want to see a little more fire, someone who is going to stand up and fight hard. that's what the allure of prum w president trump is and that's what the allure of mike desantis is. >> do you think mike pence can be the future of the republican party? >> it's hard to know but for all