this for a long time. he is consistent on where he stands in the constitution and makes a compelling case. both sides make very compelling arguments. take the politics out of it. you have rand paul who is rightly concerned about the secret court and the abuse by the government and, harris the potential abuse. we are living in a time where we have the irs going after people for their political beliefs so there is concern information could be used before. when hoover was head of the fbi it is no secret they used information to go after political opponents. i think the opportunity for abuse is huge. remember sitting on the couch or on "outnumbered" in august when we got the headline u.s. directs agents to cover up a program. how did they do that? with the wire tap. >> and it isn'tt that senator