Well. I thought it was a really interesting speech. It's a rich text as we might say in a college seminar. Yes, you're not going to be tuning in you're going to be listening on your ifv as you're walking out. All of you out there, don't go any where. Elon musk is hiring everywhere. Arizona, nevada, mainly those swing states because the job is to canvas door to door for donald trump. Let me clarify. Technically it isn't elon musk who is hiring here. It's the super pack mr. Musk created and the one he funds and it's called the america pack. And technically this pack is not canvassing for donald trump. They're just canvassing door to door to convince people to vote for donald trump on their own accord. If those sound like meaningless technicalities that because they are. When you remove the layer that a super pack magically provides the reality here is that elon musk through his super pack is spending millions of dollars to do the campaign's door knocking for them. While the trump campaign and the rnc both claim that they are still doing some of that work themselves, we have seen numerous reports of republicans at the state level saying there are not many signs of a trump ground game that they can see. That is no signs other than the door knockers hired by elon musk's super pack. Which is simply severe. Get out the vote has been the bread and butter of campaigns. They're basically why you need a campaign staff to begin with. Outsources that work and have a pack to do that work for you and pick up the tab. That is an unprecedented contribution to a political campaign. And it may not even be the biggest contribution elon musk is making to donald trump right now. Today the new york times processed an analysis of five days of elon musk's posts on his website x. He posted 171 times and almost a third of those posts were false, misleading or missing vital context. For instance the times found that on one of the five days a rumor circulated online claiming that a bomb had been found near a trump rally in new york. That rumor was quickly debunked. But elon musk pushed that rumor any way sharing it with his nearly 200 million followers. Now the thing about all of these falsehoods that elon musk was pushing. The secret sauce that makes everything he's doing here so nefarious. They're not falsely incorrect they're also nakedly political. He made posts that democrats are making memes illegal. That democrats are trying to open the borders to get votes from immigrants. He said the ohio city manager had received reports of haitians were eating pets when the city manager said, there were no reports of haitians eating pets. And that musk is using the biggest bully pulpit that he just bought for himself. You could ask, what is the difference between what elon musk is doing here and the spin on fox news or ooan or any of the conservative information silos. The answer is not much. But that's the problem. More and more of our country's information eco system has been transformed into machine that takes what donald trump says and pushes it out as the truth. And that means that do donald trump can get away with blatant lies like this one. Make up some lies like she said about the border bill that trump stopped. Let me tell you, number one i didn't stop it. That was donald trump today in michigan telling a rally that he did not stop the bipartisan immigration bill that was drafted earlier this year. Now that may sound like a small detail. But because polls show immigration is a top issue for voters this year, and because trump is trying to pin the current status of our country's immigration system on vice president harris. Whether or not trump killed something that would have addressed immigration in a big way is a key detail here. And the truth is, he did. He did kill it. But don't just take my word for it. Everybody who comes on this floor and says our border is broken, we should do something about it. You're absolutely right. And unfortunately we didn't get there. President trump opposed a senate bill and we couldn't find a better way forward. President trump said don't fix anything during the presidential election. It's the single biggest issue during the election, don't resolve this. Just a couple of months ago, republican senators were loud and proud about the fact that it was donald trump who killed that bipartisan immigration bill. You know who else was loud and proud about it. Donald trump. There is zero chance i will support this horrible open borders betrayal of america. It's not going to happen. I notice that, and i will fight it all the way. I noticed a lot of the senators a lot of the senators are trying to say respectfully they're blaming it on me. I said that's okay. Please blame it on me. Please. Blame it on me, please. But of course now that that particular detail is complicating trump's presidential campaign, he is rewriting his history in front of our eyes into a huge sloth of the country he will get away with it. Meanwhile, back to earth, kamala harris visited the border where she did the best to tell the truth about donald trump. It was the strongest border security bill we have seen in decades. It was endorsed by the border patrol union. And it should be in effect today. Producing results in ral time right now for our country but donald trump tanked it. He picked up the phone and called some friends in congress and said stop the bill. Because you see, he prefers to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem. Which version of this story will more of the american public believe? harris' version or trumps? it's hard to know, right now the polls aren't just unbelievably close they are also confusingly contradictory. Just as an example, let's look at the state vice president harris is in right now. Arizona. New polling from bloomberg today shows harris up in arizona by three points but new polling from usa today shows trump up in arizona by 6 points. So where are we really? joining me now are two people who know a thing or two about running presidential campaigns. Shakeir for senator bernie sanders and roger lao and currently deputy executive director of the dnc. Gentlemen thank you so much for spending a little of your friday evening with me. Faz let me start with you. In terms of the polling which would get anybody seasick right. Which is back and forth the dial back and forth. How do you think about arizona, when you think about arizona what do you think? you look at that border trip and it would not be my first choice as a progressive. But the campaign would rightly respond, well we're not thinking about you faz because you're going to vote for kamala harris either way. So they have to think about the people who may not vote for kamala harris. We're getting into the phase where data science is going to the play. Good campaigns will track those early votes know whether the people are voting and they're going to know more importantly who's not voting. Those people letting them know what are the messages that are going to move you. How do we need to persuade you down the home stretch. It's going to play a whole new role data. Kamala harris is telling the truth. Donald trump killed the senate immigration bill. That happened he's trying to rewrite history. I'm not suggesting that there's any validity to the argument he's making but it's a case study of how much the truth matters a month before the election. The degree that this is going to move people on an issue as faz points out appears to be of top concern for american voters and especially those undecided. There's no question the truth matters. I think as you pointed out. Americans, are talking about immigration. They want to see action on the immigration issue. That's exactly what the vice president did today. She went down to douglas arizona. To listen to the experts and talk to stake holders and just wanted to make sure she laid out the idea that we needed to take action. That we needed to take action on a bill that we have a border system and that the american dream is still alive. Both my parents were immigrants that came to america for economic opportunity but also to live in ha democracy. We need to give that opportunity a chance as well. She's talking about that with dreamers. She's been talking about that for people who have been playing by the rules and paying their taxes. I get that it is a careful line she's trying to thread and a big tent she's trying to build, but i do wonter. Wonder. Is she going to get credit. For what she's trying to do two things in her remarks today. Is she going to get credit with the people she needs to get credit from. Which is undecided middle that may be open to trump's arrows he's pointed. That maybe susceptible to trump's message that she hasn't done enough at the border. And the message she's bringing up that he killed the immigration bill. They're trying to emphasize that portrait who kamala harris is. Particularly for those who don't know much about her or are being introduced to her for the first time. What does a prosecutor do? a prosecutor enforces the law. I think that portrait happens to be one that is strong. It works to her the advantage. She talks about her role as a prosecutor and as vice president. It was another way to introduce herself to people who have not been paying attention. Roger, can you run, if you're trump. We talked earlier in the segment in the opening script about the role elon musk is playing here. He's obviously giving trump a major assist in terms of diluting the truth or steering it into misinformation. He's playing a role in the nuts and bolts of the campaign itself what do you think of fact they've e effectively outsourced door knocking to a super pac run but the guy that owns tesla. I mean, you know look, this is a close election. We're going to in all seven states and the nebraska con tkpwregs congressional district. That's the competitive edge we feel we've had all along. Building the course on the ground for more than a year. That's why the dnc is proud that we've invested in battleground states. Coordinated campaigns. We've had 200 offices and organize ers on the ground who have been there. Going door to door and making phone calls. That's how we win this election. I'm also incredibly proud that the dnc announced we have not only invested in battleground states but also in nonbattleground states as well. It turns out there are tough elections for senate, congress, state house and all those things matter too. At the top priority for all of us no secret, making sure kamala harris gets elected president but we want to make sure we deliver a governing majority for her as well. In the senate, congress and also state houses. Because that's going to be where we make the change and the difference. We want to make sure we win the popular vote and win it big. Roger makes a really great contrast with not only is the harris campaign very invested in the grass roots organization. The dnc is investing to people doing the door knocking. I don't know about this stuff. You do. It just seems risky. I am going to worry about elon musk for a minute. Citizens united, they said one of the reasons why they allow citizens united to go into these campaigns was to say. There's no quid pro quo here. These are outside groups so they want to take as much money as they want. Take as much money as they want. There's quid pro quo. This is elon musk which we learned, he's going to run. And here we have this guy who is being promised a job. And we have donald trump working on abolishing evs. There's no quid pro quo. One billionaire with another billionaire. This does matter. It helps when there's canvassing on the ground. I think when you have canvassers that work they're motivated. They're inspired not by money but passion and pause. That's where we feel we're on a better track. Maybe elon musk will move the federal government to texas? that's the thing he likes to do. Just saying, thank you guys again for your time and wisdom tonight. I appreciate it. Can i just add one thing. Yeah,. I am so hon honored to be on here tonight. I'm especially proud and excited to be on this with faz as you may know. Faz and i were the first two asianamericans to ever run presidential campaigns and to have this moment here especially with you is just so special. Roger, asianamericans are you watching this. Look at the three box. I love you for pointing that out. Of course. Our moms are so proud right now, roger. Thank you guys. Thank you, thank you. Thank you my fellow asians for joining me on this friday night. Now go off and have a good time. Okay we have a lot more to get to tonight. I'll talk to msnbc's contributor about kamala harris' message and how it may resinate with latinos. And the latest american politician to have allegedly become a target of foreign interference. I'll talk to christie greenburg about that; next. Anhelp a pare world food programme as they provide more than food to people in need. Together, citi and the world food programme empower families across the globe. ♪♪ liberty mutual customized my car insurance so i saved hundreds. With the money i saved i thought i'd get a wax figure of myself. Oh! right in the temporal lobe! beat it, punks! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, liberty ♪ nothing comes close to this place in the morning. 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Meanwhile those federal prosecutors are continuing their investigation by looking into mayor adams ties to israel, china, qatar and uzbekistan. But adams is not alone. New jersey senator menendez is accused of taking bribes from qatar. And donald trump has yet to answer questions about the $10 million egypt's president sought to donate to trump's 2016 campaign. Joining me now is christie greenburg and msnbc contributor. Is this a rae recent phenomenon where you have these foreign governments using with so much. You just gave the example of donald trump getting that donation from egypt. That began with you know a very reliable informant then it was corroborated by intelligence. Then they started digging then they found there's a $10 million cash withdrawal. So you thought, usually there's some sort of a tip off that brings you to it. In the case of adams there was an audit done of his campaign donations and it was a mess. There's a lot that you just couldn't put two and two together where the donations are coming from. And that's also a red flag. The oversight behavior from adams dating back to 2015 when he was the brooklyn borough president. I mean that is do you think they were dedicating resources all the way back then or how would you imagine this given the extraordinarily long time line. The idea this rhetoric from mayor adams is he's being targeting because he's been out there speaking truth to power for new yorkers. He has views on politics and migrant crisis. The migrant crisis, if you want to call it crisis that started in 2022 and this investigation started a year before that. This doesn't have anything on politics. This wasn't targeted by biden, harris. He was targeted by the turkish government who saw him as an easy mark. Someone who would do as he's told in exchange for luxury travel to istanbul. So they started early. They started him back in 2016 when he was the brooklyn borough president. As his profile grew and as he got higher office, they knew like they played the long game. Right. Okay now he's got more power. Now we can start calling in our favors and he did exactly as he was told. Don't make that statement about homicide. Okay, he did what he was told. And the worse example was he had to sign off get your fdny to sign off on a building that has safety concerns. Is a safety hazard. During the month of september where he's giving these messages while he's attending september 11th events all the while he's having this building approved that is a hazard. Yeah. Which remains a building in existence in new york city today. Right. I know you have feeling about this. This indictment came down the week of the u. N. General assembly. That maybe is not a coeupbs den coincidence. It is definitely not a coincidence. I used to think, the u. N. General assembly week, i hate the traffic. But it was a pretty light week. The fact they're doing this when they know turkish president is in town. That was intentional. It was intended to send a strong message to them that if you're going to engage in foreign interference in elections we're not going to tolerate it. If you're going to try to try to identify politicians on the take. We're not going to tolerate it. We're going to aggressively tolerate you. They searched his residence this week. It was an aggressive display. The fact they did it when all the united nations were there that is not an accident. The reason the federal government is interested in this. Is not just because the largest city is involved. It is not good. There's going to be a lot more on this one. There might be a superceding indictment. Thank you for joining me tonight. Still ahead this evening, kamala harris was at the u. S. Border in arizona. 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He did not solve the shortage of immigration judges. He did not solve the shortage of border agents. And what did he do instead? well let's talk about that. He separated families. He ripped toddlers out of their mother's arms. Put children in cages and tried to end protections for dreamers. He made the challenges at the border worse. Vice president kamala harris was in douglas, arizona this evening marking her first visit to the u. S. Mexico border since she became the democratic presidential nominee. Arizona where 33% of the population is latino is the only battleground state facing daily migrant crossings. Since president biden's restricting asylum at the border the encounters have gone down. Recent polling shows that former president trump still holds arizona. When it comes to who they will vote, registered latino voters still favor harris over trump 57 to 39%. Joining me now is ramos msnbc contributors, the reach of the latino far right. Thank you, you're putting this out at exactly the right time. It's a super read for right now. I thought about it actually while i was watching harris at the border. I was wondering what you thought about her remarks. It was a combination of here's some policy but that we need to have a humane policy. I'm going to give you two answers. I thought it was e effective. I thought it was balance. She did the right combination of softness and toughness. The average listeners were the ones you were interviewing in michigan. I say this because the first question in america's voters mind right now when you're thinking about immigration, an electoral that has fundamentally shifted to the right on this issue. That is fundamentally threatened by this idea of a border crisis. When you think about immigration there's one thing that comes to mind. And that is who's tougher at the border. That's it. Who's tougher. I think within that context. Within a context that's so politicized and so toxic that is the only thing that donald trump has at this moment. The only thing. So the idea that you can outtrump trump at border because he's infused so much fear mongering and misinformation it is so wrong. Yes i understand what the president was doing of someone that's tough, of someone that can take on the cartels. Of someone who will pass immigration bills. Some latino voters that were so instrumental in 2020 precisely because of the way that biden could humanize immigrants. Maybe they're thinking why don't you lead with that message. Why don't you flip the script. Most people don't understand how far to the right some in the latino community have gone. You know this sort of trend. You know what's happening better than anyone else. Can you talk about how these latino voters are thinking about immigration and why they lust for the tough hand on the border wall. First i'm curious people about what the border. And the idea that send them back. There's a growing group of latinos that when they say send them back. They do not see themselves reflected as that, they see themselves as the other. There's a lot of latinos in our parents age. Within that segment of latinos within that picture they have become so americanized and so assimilated that they too can buy into the nativism and the anti immigrant rhetoric and even with more force because there's a fear amongst some latinos that we will always be the other ones. We will always be the perpetual foreigners. When you put all of that together infused with the fear mongering. And within the vote, there's a growing subsection that's really critical and explains a lot of trump's growth among hispanic americans. Same you know, that phenomenon exists in other racial subgroups as well. I just, i guess i wonder when you talk about authoritarianism does that also win? so democrats typically are betting on this idea that if you cast donald trump on as a strong man because so many latinos history with authoriatism some will drive some to democrats. Yes it works but latinos have a very complicated relationship with strong and rule. This idea is pretty present that at ties because history has repeated itself in latin american that at times when democracy feels messy. In the appeal of strong men is perhaps required, no. And let's also remember that the united states government sort of conditioned that among the latin american population right. In the 20th century during the cold war. In the name of sort of ridding the west of communism the united states government supported a strong man rule and military jungla. In places like ecuador. When you come to the united states, trump has an appeal. Thank you for coming onset. 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A growing sense of nihilism from our generation. That is one of the reasons democratic candidates might be seeing lower poll numbers among black female voters under 50. According to data from howard university, 13% of black women who are likely voters in key battleground states are planning to vote for former president trump. That is more than double the percentage of black women over 50 in the same states is that they were planning to vote for trump. The sunday symone sanders townsend and melissa murray will tackle that and much more in their new msnbc special, black women in america, the road to 2024. Joining me now are my friends and colleagues, symone sanders townsend and melissa murray. It is great to have you here to talk about this. First, nihilism. For people for whom that clip was not enough, can you give context for these younger women of color who are looking at kamala harris at the top of the ticket and say the world is so messed up i don't even know if i can go in the voting booth. We did not, in our special and conversations we had with some of the real people as we like to call it. We talked to kerry washington, she is a celebrity and we talked to black women strategists and had a conversation with the naacp legal defense fund. But in the real people conversations that we had, i frankly think that the younger women, clark is gen z. Under the age of 27 and the women from the nail shop we spoke to, those are millennial's. The oldest millennial's are 43, for folks at home. Stay with us. So younger women, black women are saying we understand the stakes of this election. We are not talking about voting for donald trump, but we don't know if we will vote because of the issues. She was encouraging these young black women like, look, what do you need to see to vote? i think we don't truly understand the way this younger generation thinks about the world and politics. That's the thing. These are not women who were trump curious. They are not likely to vote for trump, they just weren't likely to vote and it was a question of disaffection versus affection for any candidate. They need a reason to get out of bed tuesday, november 5 and get to the polls and they don't think the biden administration has shown their work. They had questions about student loans, questions about police violence. The economy, obviously. Very concerned about reproductive rights, but again, not seeing in their view real plans to make a difference. Basically they think politics is broken and it doesn't work. Frankly this is a sentiment that a lot of young people have. I am a millennial and my first election, my first presidential election was 2008. So i am a young person that has come of age and seen my vote turn into something. I am a young person who went to work inside government, inside campaigns. I have seen the system work. I know if you go in you can change things. There is an entire generation of young people who have not seen the government or politics work for them. They are adjacent. They've seen activist movements do more of the work. This was actually really interesting, because when symone went and talked with the political ladies, they are just below that generation after the civil rights movement were deeply invested. They have seen massive, massive change and they understand for the system to work you've got to be in the system. Then there are people like me. We are not part of the civil rights generation, but we believe things can change and things can happen. You have symone, millennial's, but everything else, these are a group of people we have completely divested of civics education. They have a tenuous and maybe warped understanding of how government works. They all think the president can do all of these things that the president cannot do unless it is in tandem with congress and alternatively there are things they want the president to do that only states and local governments can do, like police violence. We have really made it difficult for them to come to the table and be wellinformed participants. And to say also that the information infrastructure has completely shattered. We talked about that. Reproductive choice, i would think that exists because that is them in a doctors office. I know you didn't just talk to young women. You're talking to older women, middleaged women, women who may be seeking ivf. How is that playing? i would assume any woman following this issue and who has a stake in it knows who they are voting for. We heard from joy in that clip and women in montgomery county, one of the collar counties outside philadelphia. It is important. Democrats added 40,000 votes out of that county that made the difference in joe biden winning pennsylvania and could determine the race this next go around as well, but then you heard from the ladies in the nail shop and i want people to tune in sunday night. We hit on the issue of reproductive rights and there is a woman in that conversation whose friend, melissa was like, where's the friend? a friend was in georgia and needed an abortion and could not get one. I was like will that animate you? i'm not sure. Again, i think why? she said she did not feel like her vote mattered. She said she used to live in georgia and this is a young woman who lives in north carolina right now and i think she is representative of a number of younger black women, millennial women across the country who said i went out in 2016. They told me it was the most important. I voted for hillary clinton. She said she won the popular vote but was not president. There are people that want to shame the voters and say they don't know. No, i think people, if anything, if this summer has taught us anything given what our travels have taught us, given the switch at the top of the ticket with joe biden and kamala harris, you need to listen to the voters. The voters have been saying, the electorate have been saying for a while that they did not want the rematch. We need to listen to the voters. Instead of shaming people for their perspective day meet them where they are. Meet them where they are if you want to get their vote. Also structural change in terms of civics education. There is an emotional response. There is an intellectual sort of vacuum around how change happens on a legislative level and that is something that the system, we, as a democracy, need to make sure our citizenry is educated. They were not disengaged. They were completely engaged and they cared, they just did not feel that them caring and going to the ballot box would translate to action. It is enough. You are enough. People need to watch. There are lots of nuances. One of the women was a republican and she said it for the first time. The ladies did not know. You have to watch to find out. That is a cliffhanger. Symone sanderstownsend and melissa murray, look at that special. Everyone watch it this sunday at 9:00 p. M. Eastern