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And now, hello, this is the Meeting Place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, i am andrei norkin, my colleague ivan trushkin, we are working live, well, another conflict in the middle east continues for the fifth day, it is still in such an acute bloody phase, in general, nothing changes, unfortunately , except for an increase in the number of victims, dead, wounded, which are counted, well, if you look at israeli statistics, otherwise, as a result of the attack by hamas militants, more than 1,200 people were killed, and the numbers here are growing, because, as i understand it, more and more bodies of the dead are being found in various settlements that were captured by hamas, in some cases you can even say about the mass executions of civilians, and the army begins to announce its losses, so now. Here are the israeli figures, although there are no such direct active military operations on the part of hamas now on the territory of the state of israel, with the sector there its the other way around, because the israelis are now carrying out carpet bombings, rocket attacks on gases, according to palestinian statistics, more than a thousand dead, more than 5,000 wounded, and there are refugees there, there is already some kind of impossible figure, very soon there will be under 200,000, probably, but there it is also unclear, because whole ones are being destroyed. And how many people are under the rubble is also completely impossible to understand, the worst thing is that in my opinion no one is going to stop, now we even use rhetoric in our announcement, well, here we showed israeli officials, you yourself hear the expressions being expressed, in general israel says that what hamas was doing now is worse than the holocaust, and in my opinion, almost netanyahu himself says, now in my opinion, we will remember this in the program there, palestinians they say that what israel is doing is genocide. There they have additions manifested in some of the most terrible disgusting and disgusting ways, that is, as if everyone is just playing for promotion, lets look at the latest footage, according to the palestinian authorities, more than 2,000 residential, i emphasize, residential buildings, almost fifty schools, 10 hospitals, here are satellite images, well, satellite images and a little lower there, well, in general , they still show that entire neighborhoods have been wiped off the face of the earth, plus a total blockade of the sector, the evacuation routes for the civilian population are now blocked, the residents of gaza are running out of water, food, medicine , and there is no electricity. The day before, thousands of people tried to leave the gaza strip to go to egypt through the rafah checkpoint, but israeli aircraft destroyed this checkpoint. It was also reported that Israel Attacked a humanitarian convoy, and even, unsurprisingly, the old fascist steppe barel made some very timid remarks addressed to the israeli authorities. Israel has the right to protection, but it must be done in accordance with international law, humanitarian law, and some decisions will do so. Not all Palestinian People are terrorists, so collective punishment against all palestinians would be unfair. Well, footage is now appearing on social networks of the Israeli Military, israeli artillery, tanks, combat vehicles are accumulating on the border with the gas sector, this is actually one of these many. Video in the Representative Office of the Israeli Defense forces they say that this is the infrastructure for future operations , without specifying when it will begin, 35 battalions will be deployed on the border with the strip, that israel will launch a large ground operation in the gas sector, no one is talking about any time , at night the First American plane landed at the israeli nevatim airbase, so you see footage of military assistance from the United States, what is this modern ammunition is being unloaded, it is not visible, even the picture is blurred, the pentagon also reported that on wednesday morning the american Aircraft Carrier gerald ford arrived in the eastern part of the mediterranean sea, with a strike group on board, the president of the United States, biden has already spoken with israeli Prime Minister netanyahu, in fact, in confirmation of this , a photograph appeared on the official account of the white house , a situation room of the white house, here you see biden, kamela harris, mr. Blinken, everyone has some kind of worried face, what is said in the comment to this published photo, there was no video , as far as i understand, the comment says that biden called netanyahu to discuss further steps to protect israel, while, according to nbcnews, the head of the white house asked tsahal. Minimize civilian casualties in the gaza strip. It is not reported what netanyahu responded to this. The israeli Prime Minister himself, as follows from a fragment of negotiations published by tel aviv, equated the hamas attack on israel to the holocaust stated that the palestinians, quote are worse than isis, which is banned in russia. We had hundreds of people killed, families destroyed in their beds, in their homes, women brutally raped. Killed, more than a hundred kidnapped, including children. And since we last spoke, the scale of this evil has only increased, they have taken dozens of children, tied them up, burned them and executed them. They beheaded the soldiers. The fact is that we have never seen such savagery in the history of the state, they are even worse than isis. Well, the intensity of passions in the information war in the middle east the east is no less than on the battlefield itself, the most. The discussed story of the last 24 hours, this is a reporter, the words of a reporter from the israeli channel i24 news, here she is on your screens, her name is nicole zedek, in her story she reported, with reference allegedly to the stories of the Israeli Military, that in kibbutz there was a kfaraza, which was in weekend captured by hamas, 200 bodies of dead people were found, including 40 children and infants and it was claimed that some of them were beheaded, lets look at fragments of its plot first. I talked to soldiers who said that they saw when going around houses that were attacked, they said that they saw babies with their heads cut off, we go from house to house saving all the civilians, we are stronger than them, they are aggressive and bad people, they cut off heads children and women, this news and this story instantly broke out all over the world, almost all the main british newspapers, you see the front pages, came out with reports of children. Beheaded by hamas. At first they wrote that there were several beheaded corpses. Later everything went further they wrote that all 40 of these discovered children were already without heads. And so the Turkish News Agency anadalu called tsahal and asked for a comment on this matter. And an Israeli Army Spokesman said he had no information about hamas cutting off the heads of babies. Later, this reporter, madam, said that she was misinformed by the Israeli Military with whom she spoke, however. The fake she launched has already begun to live its own life, it got to the point that in the us congress, a fox news journalist began to attack politicians speaking in support of the palestinians. Congresswoman Hamas Terrorists cut off babies heads and burn children alive. Do you support israels right to defend itself against such brutality . Can you comment on Hamas Terrorists cutting off the heads of babies . Well, the New York Times is trying to give more. Some kind of analytical analysis of the situation and we are not talking about this on the noisy plot, but in general about how it all happened over the weekend, so they talked with four unnamed, highranking employees of the Israeli Intelligence services, this is the picture the New York Times showed up. According to them, shortly before the attack, Israeli Intelligence discovered a surge in activity in some militant channels in gaza. They informed the military at the border about this, but they did not react in any way, either because they did not understand the warning, or simply did not read it. At the time of the attack, as the publication writes, hamas literally blinded the israeli army by disabling numerous surveillance cameras along the entire perimeter of the border using drones, which allowed the attackers to blow up or somehow break through parts of the border fence, and also demolish it with bulldozers in several places, allowing militants to slip into israeli territory, well, of all the news, this is a fake, of course, its like the soil here is so fertilized that of course, in the case of this israelipalestinian confrontation , any story there breaks out instantly, in general, of course, the situation is extremely complex, if not a dead end, you can spend a long time trying to understand how everyone got into this dead end , but its probably more important to understand how to get out of there, lets look at our first story, the gas sector is one of two fragments of the partially recognized state of palestine, according to the 1947 un plan, the territory was almost evenly divided between arabs and jews, the latter, by the way, got a little land more. Muslim countries categorically opposed the creation of a jewish state and launched a war against israel, which they lost. In 1967, during a new war, the israelis occupied what is now palestinian territory, the west bank jordan gas strip. Only in 1993 , palestinian autonomy was officially created on these lands; in 2012 , the state of palestine was proclaimed; 2 3 of the un member countries recognize it. The result of the vote, while dual power reigns in palestine itself, the west bank is controlled by mahmoud aabas and the fatah party, the gaza strip has been ruled by the Hamas Movement for 16 years, if israel has no military conflicts with abas, then battles with hamas occur regularly, with a frequency of several years, sahal organizes large military operations in the sector. The Hamas Movement is not recognizes israel and sets as its goal its complete destruction, believing that in the holy land, that is, in palestine, muslims are obliged to wage jihad. Dozens of countries, mainly western allies, recognize hamas as a terrorist organization, while russia, china, turkey, and almost all countries of the islamic world do not think so. The shattered myth was. That the palestinians would live in peace with israel if they got their own state. Israel transferred gas to the palestinians in 2005, but hamas took power there already in 2007 destroys everyone who prevents them from achieving their goal, to expel the jews from all of israel. The gas sector does not produce much; in fact, it lives off sponsors from muslim countries and handouts from International Organizations. Every second resident of the enclave is officially considered unemployed; more than half of the population lives below the poverty line. We are all sitting here because of poverty and lack of job opportunities. If there was work, you wouldnt see any of us. For the last 9 years i have not been able to find a job, we are dying of hunger. From gaza strip, its neighbors egypt and israel fenced themselves off with high concrete fences with barbed wire. From the israeli side, the enclave was attacked by sea, land and air. Blockade, but at the same time the main trading partner of gas, according to the imf, until recently was israel, israeli shekels are used in the sector, and electricity, fuel and Drinking Water also come from israel. I ordered a complete siege of the gas sector, there will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed, we are fighting nonhumans and we act accordingly; in palestine, the root of the conflict is seen as the reluctance of israel, as well as its allies, first of all. The United States , to comply with the un , Vladimir Putin spoke about this at the talks with the iraqi Prime Minister in moscow the day before. Bearing in mind, first of all, the need to implement the decision of the Un Security Council on the creation of an independent sovereign palestinian state. But israel leaves no room for negotiations. In recent days , more than a thousand tons of bombs have been dropped on the gas sector and a largescale ground operation is being prepared. To the sector already they are gathering heavy equipment, the Israeli Defense minister is threatening to destroy the enclave, harsh words are being heard at the un. The era of talking to these savages is over. It is time to destroy hamas terrorist infrastructure and completely erase it so that such horrors never happen again. And the International Community must give israel its full support. Well, lets look at this one. How problems are solved, but its given there, yeah, here its given here , just from my memory, from my memory, i dont remember it being so organized, a powerful attack by hamas on israel, yes there were terrorist attacks, there were some outrages around the temple mount or Something Like that , an attack on some tourist sites, well, there was no such military operation, on the other hand, that means. Now all the jewish, israeli officials, in words, are ready to destroy the gas, thats how the representative of israel was just now, he says, the infrastructure must be destroyed. All, this is only possible if you really rummage through everything, because even these tunnels, this is necessary, just burn this piece of land, naturally, along with the people , because all of them will not escape from there, while israel can say, we supported them for many years, we withdrew troops from there many years ago, but they still they are spoiling us, gevorg valerievich, which means there are two options left, one, which seems to me, is impossible now for the israelis, is to somehow return to the un recommendations to begin to really build a political dialogue, a political dialogue, the end of which will be the creation of a fullfledged a palestinian state, that is, the holy land, there will be two countries, palestine and israel , the second is to really destroy everything, but here i have a doubt whether the goal will be achieved in the sense of finding peace for israel, what do you say . So, you said correctly, these are two extremely complex, extremely difficult to implement options, but you need to choose something from them , because there is no third, we agree with you here, there are, well, there were options on the western bank, dividing it with a wall into many parts, negotiate there separately, but we we are talking specifically about gas, the west bank is a different story, specifically about gas there are no other options, or we can negotiate, but hamas is not capable of agreement simply by definition, hamas has taken all the residents hostage. The feasible option is really a complete cleansing of the gas sector, in which unfortunately, to our great regret, for all normal adequate people, it is impossible without great sacrifices, and victims among civilians, specifically among civilians, because i do not consider victims among terrorists and those who support them, but victims among the environment among civilian population that has nothing to do with homo. A slightly more executable scenario , what consequences will this have . It will have very dire consequences for everyone, a large number of casualties among the civilian population, a large number of casualties among the israeli army, and great instability, possibly tightening israels isolation in the world, but without this option israel cannot exist as a state, this is an existential question. For the state, to live like this with hamas, they tried, they they honestly tried, yes, i never justify israel in its methods, but they tried to negotiate, they tried to fence themselves off, if it is impossible to agree, they tried different options, as we generally tried with the zelensky regime, it didnt work, terrorists there are terrorists, now israel is starting to destroy hamas, the methods are another matter, we can agree with these methods, say that they are excessive, because even though the israelis call the arabs cousins, they do not consider them relatives, they do not consider them their own they think this is a derogatory meaning, that is, methods are a really big question, but the fact that the destruction of hamas is the only option is a fact, well , that is, you rather see the second option, so lets, i think, everything will develop for the worst there scenario, because madness has gripped both sides, that is, the israelis , still under the pressure of Public Opinion that netanyahu needs to be shown as cool, will enter there, fall into a trap set for this to cause a wave of hatred in the arab in the muslim world and no one will find little in this situation, i want to say now a very important thing that worries me most of all, so that this does not affect us, because one of the hamas leaders, halet mashal, recognized friday the 13th, well, someone says , that this is the day of the world grooming, it doesnt say this, but general mobilization, actions and so on, we too, wait, this is the upcoming friday, we have a very bad story, its also happening, i ll read you one comment now, which in social networks, the post was made by one of the regular participants in our program, i wont say who, because he didnt react, maybe he just didnt see this post, but it was not for nothing that the jews were exterminated in the middle of the last century, that is , this is written by a person present in our studio, no, of course, he has, he has comments, comments, comments, this is written by a citizen of our country, he still means no, well, i think that he should be punished, because this is a criminal article, the middle of the last century, this is a holocaust, you got me right, do you think this is something new, it just happened, before such commentators we always had, listen, excuse me, you are not so long ago, wait, i will give you the law. I think we were discussing the year 1993, when in the studio, and you recalled an episode when with one of the television employees, there were quite a few, as i remember, wellknown there, including a person who visited ostankino here 30 years ago , in search of jewish faces, remember, these are these, these are the ones who are going to hang the jews, we always had such a psychosis, then thousands of arab children did not die, now if you inflame people here purposefully, someone will try, the enemies of our country will try, maybe it will spill out on our country, so it seems to me that before its too late, we need to carry out. Well, first of all, conversations with the leaders of diasporas, to communicate with some leaders of the republics, so that there are no such statements that may be perceived, it seems to me that you are still blowing water, you know, and i know where mutual hatred begins, and even if we now have no god forbid the attack synagogue, we absolutely do not need this conflict, just like the attack on the mosque, of course, too. I can bring you back to palestinian affairs, elena vladimevna, after all, from what they are saying now, we do not see even the slightest, even percentage option, in which everything can happen there, i dont know, a week or two after that , as soon as our heads cool down, move on to a political settlement, because from what gegor valerievich says, from what maxim anatolyevich says, this, excuse me, is a massacre, and a massacre on both sides, yes, which can attract even more participants, and this is, well, just a war. Heads will not cool there, yes, these are not the First Operations of the israelis and actions of retaliation and not the first terrorist attacks by the palestinians, operations, but such a scale really did not happen, in the history of the jewish state there were no such operations on the part of the arabs, but this all only means that without solving the problem itself, the situation will not calm down, but as you see it, this is how to solve it, right . It wont be resolved now anytime soon, so i dont see any other scenario other than as an escalation scenario and the only question is the degree of this escalation and its scope, that is, will it be limited to the gas sector, will it be limited to individual actions, because these individual actions are already taking place and maxim is right that we see individual actions in egypt , in jordan, we will see them. Who are you for, for the israelis, for the palestinians, well, our leadership, it acts very competently, really competently, that is , there is no need to get involved in this, well, besides our leadership, there are other countries, well see about other leaderships, just excuse me, we have andrei vladimech and victor, they are just a little different point. The United States, in addition to supplying weapons there, they are quite consistent, they are now supporting israel , they are supplying them, they are saying that we need to dig towards iran, we need to see what irans contribution to these events is, he is probably somehow involved in this, he is probably in this participated, well, its clear that they remind iran of all the other things that the progressive, in quotation marks , western world considers iranian sins. Iran is clearly pleased with hamas actions in israel. The day before a government newspaper congratulated readers on the thousands of israelis killed with a card filled with balloons. Meanwhile, iranian tv aired a video calling for the destruction of the israeli top political leadership. At the same time, tehran itself, while sympathizing with the Hamas Movement, does not recognize its participation in the attack. The spiritual leader of the country, ayitla ali khaminai, only expressed admiration for those who, quote were planning an attack on the zionist regime. They underestimated the capabilities of the Palestinian People. All islamic states are obliged support palestine i hope they do so. This action was carried out by the people of palestine. However , the western press on it was the Iranian Intelligence services that helped plan the attack on israel at a meeting in beirut last week that gave the green light to the attack. The politicians publication boldly calls iran the only beneficiary of this conflict. Allegedly, this is how he successfully prevents the rapprochement between israel and saudi arabia. Hamas receives inspiration, support, funds and knowhow from iran. Hamas would not have been able to gain as many opportunities. Military capabilities if not iran, iran is more than just a sponsor, iran is where hamas capabilities are concentrated, iran itself has long sought to go nuclear. Hold on, which makes the west very nervous. Back in february of this year, bloomberg alarmedly reported iran is enriching uranium almost to weaponsgrade levels. And now the washington elite seems impatient to punish iran. White House Strategic Communications Coordinator john kirby proposes permanently freezing 6 billion for iran held in saudi arabia bills, and us president ial candidate nicky haley simply demands that iran be brought to its knees. We must stop iran, the dollar, which. To make sure that they never have bombs, to stop all the oil that goes to china, to stop all the equipment that goes to russia, to bring them to their knees, such belligerent statements prompt the American Public to certain thoughts, for example about what can all this get out . The conflict between israel and hamas could escalate into a war between iran and its western allies, if one begins, not just around the corner will be the use of Nuclear Weapons with all that entails, the death of millions of people, the collapse of the global economy. Viktorich, if the United States wants to do something with iran, then now you cant think of a better opportunity , you already, we have already shown these newspaper covers, you can equate iran with hamas, and western propaganda will do it, for how much, for a week, for two, iran equals hamas already. Hamas are students of iran and so on and so on, and after that it will be possible to create a coalition for some kind of Operation Decisive force, a decisive fist, well, to act, is the United States ready for this . If the United States had sought a direct military conflict with tehran, they would have behaved somewhat differently, a number of american officials have stated that there is no direct evidence for this there is no point, and moreover, the americans, including the secretary of state, had such a goal from the beginning, they would not have been looking for them, they would have found them long ago. Moreover, the american militarypolitical leadership announced that it had warned tehran damascus and some other forces , hezbolu, want them not to be involved in this conflict, that is, they are not interested in direct military confrontation with tehran and some of its allies in the region. But here it is not necessary to say a few words about why tehran is so interested in general , well, on the one hand it would seem an islamic state, but still israel is quite far from iran, palestine is far away, why are they so interested in this topic, the matter is that iran is not, it is islamic, but not an arab state, and in order to establish some level of dominance in the arab world, they need to capture the hearts and souls of the arab street, because they cannot count on the support of the saudi, kuwaiti, jordanian elite, which is why they cling so much to the topic israel and this issue, they know that the arab street , the poor neighborhoods, they, unlike their governments, have great sympathy for the residents of gaza, for the residents of the west bank, and so on, so they constantly discuss this topic they are pumping, for iran what has happened now is really beneficial for several reasons , it has already been said that they were able to save time in this way and move on, this is beneficial, and further escalation is beneficial for iran. What happened is beneficial for iran. Direct confrontation with the United States, great britain, anyone else, very briefly about israel and gaza, the fact is that this situation, they talked about ukraine here, but it doesnt resemble anything else, the analogy here is not complete, full of analogies they rarely happens, it is more reminiscent of the situation with the socalled ichkeria, and under yeltsin russia gave chechnya, well at that time ichkeria, the opportunity to somehow develop separately, they continued to carry out terrorist attacks on russian territory, the second chechen war began, and as for. The residents of gaza, the organizations that managed gaza there during the Israeli Occupation, there was an Israeli Occupation there until 2005, lets say , the palestinian resistance, said that they were against the occupation leaving, the israelis eventually left, but this did not lead, did not led to the end of terrorist activities, the conflicts are much deeper, please speak out to your colleagues too, takrey vladimirovich, i was following you, you reacted that you do not see the risks, the expansion of the zone, i partially, no, i partially see, the point is, that today is, to some extent, a decisive day, and people from hamas told me directly that if. Then you say, andrei vladimov, there at the Meeting Place that we people will wave if israel launches a ground operation, hamas. Will launch a retaliatory military operation, and they have taking into account such bombings, the forces remained with them, well, firstly, they have more than 100, 1220 km of tunnels, where they currently have, as we showed yesterday, they have about 6,000 missiles prepared and at the same time they are ready to activate all their cells on israeli territory, go over, but this is still a little less scary, if these are attacks only from the south, the problem is that they say that from the territory. Hezbollah made a decision that if the situation in gaza is critical, now it is not critical , its not critical yet, then hezbollah will launch strikes in the north, including on telavi and so on, as for iran, i also talked to them today, they will not interfere, for some reason why interfere if they fight, iran will watch, it was correct to say here, iran has finally come to the end of its nuclear program, you wait for me like this, so as not to jump over. That iran now has such a quantity, its all the same then, no matter how cynical it may be, given these terrible things , it remains, as you say, that it can go boom, bless you . Colleagues, i would like a few to consider. The first is the madness that gripped both sides, it spread to commentators and now continue to assert that peace is impossible, peaceful existence is impossible, that jews and arabs are not people, everyone who claims this calls each other that, the escalation of this conflict, then that peace is possible, 500 years, arabs and jews existed peacefully, the most famous jewish thinkers, they lived in muslim lands, please, hazdai bin shafrud, mosha bin maymunit, they arose as individuals, they worked precisely in muslim lands, please look at our russian jerusalem, look at derbent, when the muslims came, today, by the way, is the anniversary of 1380 years since the muslims entered derbent, before that there was already a Jewish Community there, all these years they existed peacefully, this conflict only arose in 20. When an attempt was made to create a state for only one people in one of the most difficult regions of the world, and if today we talk about possible scenarios, firstly, if the gas is completely cleared, i have no doubt that many people could be killed there, i i know that israel is capable of this, but this will lead to a chain reaction, that all those regimes with which israel has already achieved some kind of peace agreements will collapse, secretly negotiated with saudi arabia, they will all be swept away, which is what iran needs, you you see, in the end israel, which already exists only due to external support , how to prevent this from happening, what to take them to derbend on an excursion, or something to share their experience, to stop this in an ocean of rage, you understand, i understand, i say, how can you prevent this as much as possible . Try to cool these hot ones, not to warm them up, not to do what gevorg is doing, they must be completely destroyed, they are not subhuman, they are not nonhumans, and so on, gevorg, a representative of the people who have now experienced the tragedy in karabakh, repeat such words, well, this its just nazism, you know, like that, they said on the last program, now youre saying, but now i dont believe what happened in israel itself. That the israeli army slept through this attack, i dont believe that all the cameras were turned off, i dont believe that in the gas you can prepare 56,000 missiles, and massad didnt see this or military intelligence didnt see it, theres a ball hanging over the gas, there are balls hanging that are filming and scanning all this, i dont know, in the Moscow Region its impossible to make 10 missiles so that the special services we overslept, there will be a lot of conspiracy theories after september 11th, i dont believe that these paragliders can be rolled out for takeoffs. And so that ilina vladimirovna has not already seen a lot of stories there, well, the guys who served in the israeli army, they say, including those Border Guards who are not far from the wall, and near the gas, they say that when i served or i served, well, they raised the alarm 30 times a night because there was some kind of bat flying there, its sensors recorded it and they sincerely do not understand what happened and what happened, undoubtedly iran is preparing hamas and khazbouliya , undoubtedly, it arms them, trains them, supplies them with intelligence data, but i am convinced that after hamas has reached a certain level of preparation, it they just gave me a corridor. Who gave it to enter the territory . Jews themselves, or what . This is what i occupy, this is the one who is now shouting the loudest, fueling this conflict from overseas, and they have all solved all their problems, the americans, firstly, man, there is such a theory that this frees netanyahus hands in a difficult situation, in general, its a political period for him, and it gives him, calmly say, weve gone over time , yes, lets take a break now, you calmly argue, thats it, thats it, a break, dont miss it, Central Television, the first information show, events and people of the week , who and how slept through the daring attack by hamas, where were the israeli army and massad promoted, why modern tanks and planes were powerless against militants on pickup trucks, motorcycles and paragliders, washington will have to fight a war on two fronts, where the pentagon will find weapons and ammunition for israel if the american the arsenal was devastated by the ukrainian crisis, the american boulevard will definitely not be able to handle two armed conflicts, does this mean that kiev is now waiting. Coercion for peace, extreme determination, after the hamas attack of the israeli army is plowing up with shells and leveling the gaza strip, a piece of land with 2 million hostages of this massacre, the Prime Minister of israel promises to change the middle east in response to the attack, but does changing really mean turning it into ruins, this will be your Central Television on saturday at 19 00 on ntv. The fellow traveler premieres on saturdays at 13 10 on ntv. This is azonbank. And you have a lot of clients here. Already more than 25 million. They also return cashback up to 100 to the lucky one. Azonbank cashback up to 25 in rubles. Opportunity to return up to 100 of expenses and free card services. Receive up to 15 on your balance with a free sofcombank debit card. Pay less. Toilet paper papia 990. Pyaterochka helps out. This night our friend has already been forced to get up several times to admire the stars. 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Liamax purchases with a plus, this is the Meeting Place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, we continue, we went a little overboard, in general, we decided to do this, we will now sacrifice the traditional information block, we wanted to talk a little there about the next meeting in the ramstein format, but for ukraine, we will be able to do this tomorrow, in principle, but now its all about whether this still local conflict can develop into something more, what did maxim anatolyevich just read somewhere woke up there, or does he not was asleep, senator linzi graham, who said that we are waging a religious war, but im quoting so close to the text, i support , basically level this place to the ground, well damn, i dont understand, so let s look at the next story, the american think tank stretfor openly calls the conflict between hamas and israel a war and jerusalem and the Euroatlantic Alliance with the islamic world and even sees the risks of a clash between nuclear powers. Analysts call israels main opponents iran, iraq, syria and saudi arabia. The countries of europe and the United States may become indirect participants in the conflict. America to word is already preparing for something, on the eve of the second Aircraft Carrier of the United States, gerald ford with a strike group arrived in the eastern part of the mediterranean sea. We deployed an Aircraft Carrier. Hamas, we deployed an Aircraft Carrier to send a clear message of deterrence to other states or nonstate actors who might try to ignite this war. Lebanon is showing military activity. The Hezbollah Group is shelling its territory in northern israel. Israel, according to press reports, transferred equipment and tens of thousands of additional equipment to the border with lebanon. Military, but hezbollah also began mobilizing thousands of fighters. Late tuesday, the israeli army reported that the territory. The country came under fire from syria and that the idf was carrying out retaliatory strikes. The Israeli Press also believes that jerusalem and washington have some kind of agreement on military support. If israel has to fight on two or even three fronts, the United States does not deny that it is ready to help. If all three air Defense Systems that israel has are overloaded, the iron dome, the arrow and davids farewell. It will be possible to do this, israelis will regularly suffer losses and will not be able to eliminate all launchers. Then perhaps the israelis will ask the americans to help them. I cant imagine an american president saying no to this request. And then the word will be with the middle East Alliance the axis of resistance that unites muslim militias. In addition to syria and lebanese hezbollah, it includes forces from iran, iraq and yemen. Member of the supreme political council. Yemen, muhammad ali alhouthi announced the readiness of the yemen houthis, if necessary, to join the war. Baghdad also warned washington that its intervention in the war would be followed by attacks on us bases in iraq. If the americans openly intervene in this conflict, we will consider all american targets legitimate and will not hesitate to strike at them. Turkish president erdogan said that the dispatch of an american Aircraft Carrier to the Eastern Mediterranean is a cause for concern. And what is he going to do . He will create a real massacre in gaza and its environs, striking with his qataris and planes. There is no desire to support palestine. Especially what looks frightening against this background is that this whole picture was very accurately described by Vladimir Zhirinovsky a few years ago. In the twenty fourth year you will not have elections. There will be no country called ukraine. You are not taking the situation into account. Such events that everyone will forget what ukraine is, we are talking about the third world war, and iran is not vietnam, and not north korea, and not kosovo, there will be the most terrible events here, vladimirovich knew how to calm the audience, takray vladimovich , you said that you partially admit the risk of escalation, but in this there were additional arguments in the plot, well, it all looks like its inevitable, well, its inevitable, because i say again , everything will be determined by israels ground operation, as soon as Israeli Forces enter the territory of gaza, just like that after that, and what is the reason for this, again, the other day you told us that you were in the gas, unlike the rest of us, and we dont even understand that they wont turn on tanks there, nothing, that is, that such a terrible thing can happen from ground operations, well, first of all, because that its a civilian there. They wont go on foot in the gas, they never entered, to enter there , excuse me, on tanks and transport carriers, is to get molotov cocktails and grenades from in short, there is a certain limit of patience, and this limit is just as soon as the situation in gas it will become critical, then hezbola will immediately enter, who will measure it elena vladimirovna, but you just need to not, thats what there may be no limits now, this is the danger. Situation, because we are already seeing chaos and it will continue, well how many times have i been in the gas sector, its scary to think, but there is no solution there, neither military now, nor political, but in the usa, in israel there is a narrow group of people, Benjamin Netanyahu belongs to them, who believe that the problem of palestine is just the middle east, so that jews and arabs live together, can only be solved by complete reformatting , as they say, scientists of neurolinguistic programming, if the problem is not solved, you must put it in a new framework, in a different framework, in this case you need to program only the palestinians, as i understand it, israel too, no, netanyahus idea is a longstanding one, if iran remains as it is, then the problem will not be solved, because, as netanyahu believes, these are tentacles throughout the region, and netanyahu is a longtime supporter , rocking the situation with the involvement of the United States in the conflict against iran, against what . I didnt serve, he was in the army, as far as i remember , so he has a different idea, i talked with friends who studied together with netanyahu and i talked to him several times, this is part of this theory. What do you need reformat the region, we saw in 2003 in iraq, we saw an attempt in syria, we saw in libya, that is, everything is reformatted, then the borders can change and so on, why doesnt iraq look like it did before, libya doesnt look like that , as before, syria does not look the same as before, only iran remains, but this is a very catastrophic scenario that really threatens, well, if not the third world war. You see, this is the limit when it will be reached, but it has not been reached yet, right now, now there are 400,000 inhabitants of gaza, already internally displaced people, they have no houses where they live, thats the limit that s a million, there will be no electricity, there will be no light, and in a few days people in hospitals will simply start dying, then imagine what will begin in the arab world, there has already been a football match in morocco, morocco is a country that, from the point of view of the United States and. And yet the fans of the two teams chanted antiisraeli propalestinian slogans, yes, because arab is almost everywhere, almost everywhere, even in the most moderate countries, he hates israel, fiercely hateful, thats still one thing, but the reformatting of the middle east, thats what elena was talking about, is another thing, gegovich, youll probably still have time, well, very briefly, yes, all the conspiracy theories about what netanyahu knew and did, im sorry, its a farce , because if someone ever finds out about this, its the end of the entire political career, the entire leadership, thats why the americans were on the moon, and whos on the tower . Because there was no Conspiracy Theory there, so no, i mean, its an american conspiracy, for that iran and possible military operations against iran, which means a possible military operation against iran is extremely unlikely, because it would have catastrophic consequences for the United States itself, iran has the technical capabilities to strike all american bases in the middle east, including kator, qatar airbase, these are. Sacrifices that the american president doesnt need before the elections, so no one will start anything against iran, and trump doesnt make a decision there even before trump, but he has all sorts of lingmas, aka republican, there are these other nice socalled people, no one will be there, the last moment, yes, i never call for genocide, i call for the destruction of terrorists, this is the first time ive heard what it s called, you had this phrase yesterday , just not the most successful, come on, the acceleration with which the situation is developing is just a direct confirmation of the complete failure of the unipolar world, which ours constantly repeats and the kremlin talks about this until other guarantors of security in this equation are included in the middle east, in first of all, of course, these are russia and china, china will never resolve this situation, because now everything is going according to the scenario of the United States and israel itself, they have achieved all their goals. Biden diverted attention from ukraine, from the failure of the United States, from supplies, because now the american viewer is eating something completely different, this is an interesting moment, they stopped all these online broadcasts, diverted attention from his criminal cases, now, they all and he got card blanche for the complete destruction of gaza and the complete solution of the palestinian issue, now everything is at stake. So far, unfortunately, there is no guarantee. Security, some guarantors of danger are solo, so a short break, lets change the topic to the guests, say thank you to our guests, let us go, return to the air in a few minutes, if Timur Rodriguez called you, it means you are a paputik in the show, a show in which any of you can become a real presenter and travel around the world with me, lets go. 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Rf, there is all the information about further concerts, now we have such an absolutely peaceful topic, and about the introduction of Artificial Intelligence into everyday life , i really will add on my own with completely incomprehensible consequences, but i hope that everything will be fine, first of all we didnt throw away this piece of news from vanya , because hes talking about people who, it seems to me, have intellectual problems with artificial capes, in general, in short, you probably know that someone chewed through the gas pipeline between finland and estonia, naturally they blame us, now ivange, we told the audience about this the day before, as you remember, we told about this baltik, a connector connecting estonia and finland, and of course, guess who was accused, guess us the first time, the finnish newspaper iltalti, i said it the first time, and it writes the russians are to blame for everything, finland suspects that russia struck, the finnish Prime Minister does not yet want to say the same thing, but hints that a comprehensive investigation needs to be carried out. According to preliminary assessment, the damage could not have occurred as a result of normal operation or pressure fluctuations. It is likely that the damage is the result of external activity. Finnish authorities have launched an investigation into this matter it is important not to do so. Estonia, Prime Minister kaja kallas, as soon as she arrived from a business trip, immediately gathered her Security Forces about something and consulted with them for a long time, as they say in this message, after which, after this meeting , she called her colleagues from europe, ursulie vonderleen, the main gynecologist, head of the european council, Charles Michel and nato secretary general jens stolten, talked to them about what they talked about unknown, along with the investigation into the causes of damage to the gas pipeline, the Estonian Police are studying the damage to the communications ship, which was passing next to the baltic connector, and today the general secretary is already commenting on the incident, not commenting on it himself, of course, journalists ask him, what do you think about all this, well stoltenberg is in his spirit here, he says that if anything happens, the alliances response will be decisive. We will discuss an incident in the baltic sea with damage to important underwater infrastructure. The day before i spoke with president saolinio Prime Minister kaya kales. The most important thing now is to understand what happened. And how did this happen, if we confirm an attack on critical infrastructure, natos response will be uniform and decisive against this background lithuania, which seems to be out of business, is worried, but it is already asking nato to take its Energy Facilities under protection, as if something would happen , moreover, the version with a possible explosion on the baltic connector gas pipeline is also promoted by the norwegian press, citing data from seismologists from norway, estonia and finland, supposedly they recorded an underwater explosion of this damaged gas pipeline, an explosion very similar to the one that disabled our Gas Pipelines last year, nord stream 1 and nord stream 2, although the power of the current explosion seemed to be doubled less. The kremlin called the news about the baltic connector alarming and also recalled last years terrorist attacks on russian Gas Pipelines; no one has yet figured out who is behind them. Andrey vladimirovich, i am watching this story with interest. Then again it turns out that some swedish submarine was there and gurgled, so lets talk about our Artificial Intelligence , we painted a colorful picture of such a colleague here, we have it, so to speak, depicting in what areas of life this Artificial Intelligence is or is already being used, or is about to begin to be used, but the simplest case, we will analyze all this separately, is a car, a car that has Something Like that on the dashboard, well, its true, you wont really surprise anyone, here are robots, delivery people , something there, they somehow found themselves in a slightly alarming life situation, that is, this is already a hint of a certain problem, but we will start with what seems to be a completely unexpected area, you see here, below is a judges gavel, and here is Artificial Intelligence, here ive never heard such a saying, my colleagues found it, it turns out the americans say so, justice, where i have dmitry vladimirovich, is what the judge ate for breakfast. Well, that is, he ate well, judges well, ate poorly, judges poorly, so this is exactly our news opportunity for today. But there is an idea that they are now going to discuss, that we need to introduce Artificial Intelligence into our judicial system , the simplest, very first reason, it has no emotions, it is not bribed by this Artificial Intelligence and in general will cope with these judicial duties better, than a person dressed in a judges robe, lets start with this, then well talk about the rest of the episodes too. They started talking about the fact that Artificial Intelligence is capable of making Court Decisions at the end of september in the federation council. Deputy Prime Minister for digitalization Artyom Sheikin is preparing to discuss this with the Supreme Court. They want to learn from china. There, all the judges listen to the Artificial Intelligence, and it looks for precedents in the system, suggests which articles to rely on and generates texts of decisions. If the judge does not agree with the machine, he must submit written objections. Our senators believe that Artificial Intelligence will better analyze typical cases, such as fights, divorce, division of property or debt collection, which will occupy a large number of judges wont be necessary. If we are talking about Different Industries where the cost of an error will not be very high, then of course i would recommend using Artificial Intelligence everywhere, which will simplify and speed up work, but it is important that this does not lead to any total errors and consequences. Another plus of the robot is that it is impartial and people can trust it. About 45 of russians believe that our courts often make unfair decisions. Only one out of four assesses their work positively. More than half of russians believe that russian courts are corrupt. The International Organization world justice project, which compiles rule of law ratings in different countries, placed the russian judicial system near the bottom of the list. And a robot judge, experts say, will be difficult to bribe or intimidate. Artificial intelligence is impartial, it cannot be bribed, it cannot be influenced in the wrong way, it cannot be misled, it cannot make mistakes, and the time frame for considering cases is reduced significantly. Artificial intelligence is not required rest, he does not need a break for lunch, sleep, rest, he can work 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Another argument is the lack of emotions in Artificial Intelligence, which can interfere with even the most professional judge. There is a problem with the competence of juries. According to Supreme Court statistics, juries return acquittals 50 times more often than judges. Lawyers note that the key here is the emotional factor people, for one reason or another, feel sorry for the criminal, even accused of the most serious crimes. So dmitry vladimovich, well, i understand something, you are not particularly enthusiastic about this prospect , absolutely not enthusiastic, the judicial process is a thing even more conservative than judicial, than football rules, and therefore where in the last place. Artificial intelligence, so this is here, todays technologies, thats how much i evaluate them, as a person who has little to do with this, they wont be able to really pass judgment for 1020 years verdicts, because the technology has not yet been developed, because there are a huge number of factors, the judicial process is a much more complex area than road traffic, in the road sector apple says, wait, you are telling me your lawyer tricks here. That is, you want to say that it is impossible during the trial of any case, even a case like this, well, standard, yes , which most often occurs, without some kind of detective mystery, it is impossible to carry out a judicial proceeding, simply relying on some kind of database, there on precedents, as auxiliary tools, we actively use this, and lawyers, and judges and prosecutors, but allow it directly before decisions are made, much less put the appropriate stamp that the verdict was made by Artificial Intelligence, because the technologies are not yet developed, there is no Artificial Intelligence exists, well, mind you, i didnt say this, but i wanted this vladimovich friend andriyevich, for example , some standard cases, well, for example, i dont know, the mother came to court, the man does not pay her child support, this artificial one is taken intelligence, evaluates income, russia, of course, is still far from it, but there is International Practice that can be relied on, for example, there they already use Artificial Intelligence in germany, there they use it in the same states, and there the judge ultimately makes a decision independently, but the precedent seems to be yes for the machine to prepare this decision, that is, in fact, well, if we take germany, then there are actually machines there. He is already writing, that is , they simply generated statistical data not like in the usa, based on the fact that people come here in prisons, what kind of class there is, race, and so on, that is, they took the Court Decision directly, that is, germany went a little further and took a readymade decision from the courts, in this sense they seem to be yes, she analyzes the system, says, here in in this case, there was such a decision, assesses relapse in a criminal case, for example, a person, even criminal cases are trusted , of course, that is, a system , which means there is no artificiality, that is, he is , as it were, not sufficiently prepared, well, artificial, in the word Artificial Intelligence, thats all of us anything, Neural Networks, algorithms and so on and so forth, artificial, Artificial Intelligence, as an independent conditional person who is aware, makes a decision, this is not, and this is not even visible there, it may happen someday, but this is not, whats the difference, you say, a Neural Network, yes, we have a lot of entertainment on social networks, where you give a task. Firstly, the pictures are very different, there are fingers on the ass, i apologize, drawn on, there are six fingers, it happens differently on these pictures, its much more complicated, its much more complicated than that, so when they say that its already in use, then lets break it down, if were talking about technology as a tool to help. Yes, to prepare some kind of information certificate, to search for precedents, some other something, something, thats one thing, and thats good, and let it be implemented, and when we say, sorry, its artificial the intellect will give a verdict on why this is more difficult, ill explain my question, you can give the computer the entire database of our laws and it is capable of processing it, you can give a computer a database of decisions of the Supreme Court of the highest courts and it is capable of it. In very simple cases, even under human control, it is possible, but you need to experiment, but i agree more that there are no simple cases, every case, especially if it is a criminal proceeding, forgive me there, but its not even criminal, there are just a lot of nuances, which Artificial Intelligence, even it wont even understand it, it will start selecting suitable cases and. What you say, what you say, is simply tearing the soul of germand sergegevich, because it offends his painting, surprisingly, yes, that is, we all suddenly forgot here that there is already a precedent, already. Thats it, come on, tell me, youve been a motorist for a long time, probably with a long experience, yes, when you violated , how did the process go, you either paid on the spot or went to court, well, yes, now everything has been handed over, no one is involved, so when the fines come from the cameras, everything was donated to the poor ones, who made the decision, well, wait, well, wait, this is a purely technological story, not a single living person took part in bringing fines to you, you were speeding, thats it. Example, but it seems to me that in this example the moment of choice itself is missing , because the camera took a picture of me , everything is obvious there, it recognized it, im breaking the rules that are already in place, please wait, im still in shape, i can stand on my own two feet. Speak with your mouth, spit with your poisoned saliva, in case of waving your fists, and spit at anton valevich. I wont, there is no moment of choice here, this little thing that photographs and writes all this, it doesnt need think, so damn, he did it, who is this, this is norkin, is it possible for norkin to issue fines or not, you need to be recognized, well, he recognized me, there is a choice, there, in fact, its the same artificial one, again, me im just saying, i dont understand yours now. Ill explain, there is a choice, she learned from many understandings that you are you by your number , she made the choice to send to norkin, this system just processed the database, no, im talking about choice, thats what they were talking about, but no, and this is also a choice, by the way, right, Mikhail Borisovich spoke about the fork, this is a choice, a person should be punished here or not, there is no choice here, he must be punished, 90 of all legal cases are subject to this same structure. Its just that they can be lowered in exactly the same way, if a person does not agree to challenge how the procedure is going now , i receive a fine, i challenge it, if a mistake actually happened, it comes back, thats it, this simplifies a lot of cases that you pair in a living court with a living person human, the system cannot accept you, the system records violations and the fork in the road says, either you agree with this and pay a fine, or you go Mikhail Borisovich, he raised his hand, you know, it seems to me, in order to finally approach this problem. I still need to say a few things in advance, this whole story with Artificial Intelligence is such a development of the progressive myth, first, by the way, ill point out that it began somewhere in the 18th17th century with this, with that, with that thoughts that there is nothing higher than a person and his reason, therefore everything should be decided precisely human reasoning, oddly enough, this line of reasoning led precisely to those people who today say no , the human brain is already so imperfect that it is necessary to create something even more perfect and put people above it to solve this some kind of superhuman brain, now lets see, lets see what human thinking is, first of all, it is the freedom and independence of its reasoning, that is, in other words, this intelligence that they want to invent, yes, it should maybe, based on ones own thoughts, and not based on what a person has put here, a person can make mistakes, but here , you see, a person can make mistakes, like solomon, but now a movement has come, no, well, i mean, here formally he made a decision. The way a robot would accept it, yes, two women come, they say, one child, they say this is mine, and this is mine, so he looked at the two and offered to decide, lets cut it up, what will the Artificial Intelligence say, thats right, lets lets cut it up and give everyone one piece, and he decided based on human ones, based on what he understood, saw who really is, your logic, about something. Clearly highlighted in red, where you have a tumor, where you dont have a tumor, where its good, and where its bad, then the doctor looks at all this and signs something, but highlights whats red and whats blue, this is a smart device that shows it, a certain coordinate system is entered into it , by a human, so it is not yet artificial. Not an artificial person there stuff it in, dont be nervous, they gave you something red there, you need to climb into the same pipe again, preferably in another hospital, ideally for the third time, so that then theres a second or third or fourth time, theyll also say, it was in someone elses hospital done, i wont make a decision intelligence, hell come up with it faster, lets please, yes, regarding Artificial Intelligence, ive been working on big data for a long time and i have a degree, ill explain, regarding the courts, in singapore there was a practice two years ago, they introduced this technology, but its gone several months, literally there after three months, they have a verdict, no, they started administrative cases only to consider criminal ones, no matter how they touched them, because well, some simple money and so on, but after 3 months they realized that Artificial Intelligence has no right within the framework of the civil code, other rules, but because the court makes a decision only on the initial data that falls into this Artificial Intelligence, in practice, that is, there should be a standard practice, but as colleagues say, each case has a nuance. Artificial intelligence cannot determine because it works like an algorithm, how long ago did this story happen in singapore . Two years ago, but since then, as far as my modest knowledge is concerned, Artificial Intelligence and Neural Networks have grown greatly above themselves, of course, of course, there are more variations, but we must understand that Artificial Intelligence will never be subjective, because the data that they enter it, a person enters it, and the data that it outputs must be confirmed to us and we do not need the subjectivity of Artificial Intelligence, we need so that. So that this Artificial Intelligence multiplies this honest and incorruptible essence in the courts. Anton valevich, dont interrupt me, please, bravo, kitty, my school, again the question is who is pushing this data, heres a conditional definition of a person, that is, it will be a judge who will work with this data, or an expert who has the relevant , permissions and trust, our most brilliant lawyers gather, they bring together. I want to upset you, and very much, which of us, all of us, including the audience, Artificial Intelligence has already came into our lives, and he already exists and makes a decision, and to say that he will never make a decision correctly is a utopian idea, we need to distinguish Neural Networks from Artificial Intelligence, people of course have an understanding that he will not be like we, because he has no body, he cannot be aware of himself in space, he cannot move his arms and legs. But this is not so, Neural Networks differ from human Decision Making in that they perform analysis on the entire sample that is available to them, a person only on one that can realize within the limits of its life, that is, this is millions of times higher, the accuracy of decisionmaking in Neural Networks is higher, but a Neural Network is like such a soulless unconscious creation, the Artificial Intelligence that we are talking about is exactly what it should realize yourself that in the end we will all be killed, and you are absolutely right, over the past 2 years. Has improved so much and it will improve exponentially every six months, every month, that literally 2 months ago, when they analyzed the developers of the same conditional chatgpt algans, they launched them and themselves did not expect how Many Properties this Artificial Intelligence, or more correctly , Neural Networks, would receive, compared to how they conceived it, again these Neural Networks today we didnt expect to be able to teach ourselves, but he turned out to be so smart, here even i tensed up, despite the fact that im so optimistic about this, i apologize, we need to take a break, its not Artificial Intelligence thats running the program yet, we ourselves were watching. 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The Meeting Place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, we continue, the debate about whether Artificial Intelligence can be trusted with judicial decisions continued here in advertising . Let us do this now, we will see where we already trust Artificial Intelligence to make, well, quite important decisions, where it helps us, how this all happens, because there is much more Artificial Intelligence around us than it seems at first glance. Neuronetworks already help all kinds of support services and conduct correspondence in such a way that you cant always distinguish them from a real person to bank clients, they help calculate the rate and interest on a consumer loan, identify fraudsters, help open an account or get a card. In the Public Services application, instead of an employee, the smart robot max, who is able to answer the most simple questions, is the first to come to the rescue. And in moscow at the end of september they launched cameras with Artificial Intelligence that independently detect unbelted passengers and receive fines for this. Heres your passport, heres your snils, heres your license. What else do you need . Im a real person grandfather, grandfather, why are you shouting, the computer doesnt believe me. Risks leaving someone without a job, for example, cashiers are in danger, they can be replaced by a system that, using Computer Vision technology, recognizes the selected goods, generates a receipt and accepts payment, robot couriers became a reality for moscow residents back in 2019, products, delivery from a restaurant, small parcels can be delivered by a delivery man like this on wheels, the robot is completely autonomous and plans its own route, avoiding obstacles, look, look who came to see me, my trousers are from aliexpress, but thats not all, in the usa recently Artificial Intelligence delivered the correct diagnostician, where seventeen doctors failed. In september, the mother of a fouryearold boy turned to kneirasity for help and clearly described the symptoms of the disease, and the artificial doctor concluded that the boy had a rare pathology of spinal cord development. Intelligence can be analyzed. Take this in the evening, this in the morning. Smart machines have potential even in such complex areas as construction; in china, a giant 18meter dam began to be built entirely by Artificial Intelligence, from designing and printing Building Blocks on a 3d printer to construction using unmanned construction equipment. Settings Artificial Intelligence helps to avoid. Human mistakes, which are associated with unnecessary costs and increased work deadlines. Today we are printing the second floor, we started with the first floor yesterday, and then we need to tie it all together. In 10 years, you will see, it will no longer be the case that 30 guys hang on the second floor and carry concrete. Anton valerievich, well, about the dam, i think its still too early, this is what we can trust to Artificial Intelligence now, trousers, there was a woman who entrusted it and was right, the trousers arrived to her. That the scope of application of Artificial Intelligence is quite large, i just say again, not Artificial Intelligence, because Artificial Intelligence does not exist, like subject, as a subject, as a person who perceives himself, you are now boring, no, no, because no, there are details in this, because this is an algorithm, there is, for example, some kind of process, from point a to point b, deliver products there accordingly, okay, whats the problem, this robot is on its way, delivering everything , another question is that for now it, for example, rides around the center of moscow, but it wont get anywhere to the castle, because the problem is different, that it in the process of completing this task does not begin to think about whether he should continue, he does not its cold, hes not hot, again there with the same platinum, when something is going there, building, everything else, that is , there is no problem, in general it can be a tool, so perceive these things as a tool, when here are colleagues there, among other things, they tried to argue with us about the court; in general, they were not talking about judges. In Artificial Intelligence, and excuse me, i apologize, but they were talking about a tool that really needs to be used, in courts you can use it, then i dont really understand something, we we argue, it is clear what professions german sergeevich is now may be under threat, because they regularly say that now we are all, which means we laugh and look at these on the Neural Network, Artificial Intelligence, whatever you want to call it, at the next ones there in 5 years, more someone, someone else may be left without a job, who exactly, bank employees, i read, who now. They are called clerks, fill out papers, make some minimal decisions, they can easily be replaced by the current gpt chat , well, its obvious that well probably be the first to take off, well, not for departure, for changing approaches these are drivers, obviously, cashiers, obviously , bankers, yes, that is, obviously those where there is no added value, i sincerely hope that after todays broadcast, i was not like this before cruel, but also lawyers, yes, that is, because , moreover, all lawyers and not all, not all, but only ours, this is no, no, but i mean that where, i think, yes, here look, the example of a taxi showed that there is a driver and there is a customer, yes, everything that stands in the middle, everything will be be removed by Artificial Intelligence, whether it exists or not, lets answer cnosiologically, you dont like it, you, if you like that an algorithm removed you, it will be good for the algorithm, yes , now, well, if you are replaced by an algorithm, and not Artificial Intelligence, so be it so, yes, that is, but if i perform a linear function, of course, all those works. Where ineffective labor occurs, well, you can even see it now from the work, when a line is being built there, for example, cars are assembled, specially trained workers shift these very things they insert glass, yes, because they came up with robots for glass, for example, yes, its clear that all this will be replaced, so its really, its not the same either, it s probably not going to be Artificial Intelligence, its convertible. They also argued with him about the life of electricity and they also shocked him and were afraid, and he never noticed a kerosene light bulb, but everything was replaced and now we already have cars, electric cars, and what is Artificial Intelligence, this is information, information is a modulated electrical signal, this just new wait, you are easier all professions will be replaced, all professions will be replaced, 100 , but changed, yes changed, people will not have professions from the point of view of work, people will have the opportunity to create, that is, come up, and only those who want to create will work. Will create, somehow it wont work out, that not everyone works like the person who was established here experimentally, that he will disappear his profession, friends, im completely calm, for the people, i ll quote sheckl, what you can do do, the machine will do much better, better quality, more willingly, but by no means cheaper , as for cheapness, here a person will give a car 100 points ahead, and this trend is only growing, we thought that the future was robots, all sorts of excavators, and this is a guest worker. You dont have to work, you will have time to relax, to travel, you will paint pictures, play the guitar, bully, you will, although you probably dont do this, there was a precedent, Artificial Intelligence has now replaced people who write scripts for films, well, there is such a story, even in america, if not im mistaken, there are a lot of strikes, and so on, that is, he shows that he is reducing the time and the number of people, that is , most likely there will be one screenwriter left who will ask him to write, well, give me the water, write me such a film, here are the rest of the people. We will get a social crisis. We will get a bunch of unemployed people, they will have to improve their skills, that is , lowskilled personnel due to Artificial Intelligence, an artificial algorithm, it will simply disappear, unfortunately, but we are ready for this, in 57 years, we are ready to tell people, you have been a driver all your life, for example, and you are an excellent driver, but excuse me, old man, since a wonderful. Program has appeared, you are going to the trash heap, you are 50 years old and you have nothing else you can, and these are your problems, but this is inhumane, to put it mildly, at all, in view of the social responsibilities of the state to the citizen, the state must provide education that will help him retrain and secure a place of work in case of someone to retrain for, but the question for whom is the question atlas of future professions that the government has, servicing these robots, relatively speaking, Artificial Intelligence, programming these robots, artificial, because let us take another pause now, lets return to the most common example, the application of all these things in our lives to cars, well , of course, well still continue the general convoy of conversation, take a break. On the air of the Mtv International vocal show, you are super, the second semifinal of the super season. Manner, style, you are talented. Really sing like that at 9 years old success. 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This is the Meeting Place on ntv, the place where everything becomes clear, we continue, we stopped at describing the prospect such that all sorts of smart machines with computer brains will replace us all, at a minimum, as representatives of this profession, people will either, at best , create, or this means that all of us will be consigned to the dustbin of history, so lets move on to the issue of security, because now these smart cars can sometimes cause harm, although. human health, although there are probably more benefits, im still talking about the same machines, because selfdriving cars are really not some kind of future, this is our present day , in russia by 2030 they plan to equip all new cars with Driver Assistance Systems , that is, the car will be able to drive itself, control the speed and stay in the desired lane, while the driver, in which case, can turn off the auxiliary systems and steer independently, this is how, for example, tesla cars are designed. Slowed down, wow, wow, you look, theyre getting ready to turn, turns, cool, damn, stunned, she actually drives herself, Russian Companies have been developing and testing unmanned vehicles on the roads for 2 years, but so far almost all trips are carried out with a test driver, with last year, in the moscow city of kolkovo and in the kazan minnopolis , the movement of unmanned taxis was allowed as an experiment; well , imagine, this is a taxi, you are driving in the back seat, there is no one in front, suddenly you need to stop, you pressed, the car did everything. More daring experiments are being carried out in the usa. At the end of april, San Francisco allowed 24hour use of driverless taxis throughout the city and removed the requirement for human supervision. The experiment almost immediately went wrong. For starters , the drones were stuck in a giant traffic jam due to weather conditions. The robot did not allow cars to move in the fog, and there was no living driver in the car. Why the hell there are a dozen of them here. This is what it has come to. Our a country. Local activists and taxi drivers, left without work, began to strike against drones. Social activists have figured out how to disable them. They put a traffic cone on the hood of these cars, and the sensor turns off the engine. Taxi drivers act more radically. There were no casualties either. A woman was admitted to the hospital, who was first hit by an ordinary car, with a living driver, and with the help of special equipment, it turned out that the algorithm only identifies a standing pedestrian, after this incident both residents and local authorities called for the experiment to be stopped, acknowledging that Driverless Cars are not yet safe. I think its not safe, even though they say its safe, i think its getting there. This shouldnt happen, what im saying is that if there are so many accidents in San Francisco , then take a break, this is San Francisco, the city in the style of a disc, as they sang in my childhood, oh my god, you listened to this kind of music, or something, in childhood this was played with every iron, so i need to have some educational conversations with you, mikhail, what do you say, this is, as it were, evidence that while the people of the population do not respond very joyfully to all these, because firstly, this is not Artificial Intelligence, these are some. Indeed, these are things that do not have freedom, precisely due to the fact that they dont have freedom, they just cant get out of the Current Situation thats new to them, okay , but imagine, well give him freedom, but if a scientist, for whom its important in principle to invent something, but it doesnt matter at all how it will happen later affect human life, they may even reach the point where somehow achieve some form of freedom to develop this. I dont know about some kind of apparatus there, yes, then this apparatus, in principle, is what freedom is, thats what human freedom is, this is when i even have the right to a crime, by and large i can allow myself to commit a crime as a person, which means freedom in some apparatus, if it is such, only that freedom is better than freedom, the same as that of a person, or more technically advanced, should disconnect yourself from the persons leadership, and then to analyze humanity as, well, imperfect, the next reaction, why does it need this, to the examples that we have just shown you, a person in his freedom does not wear a seat belt, a person in his freedom does not stop at a red light, we have had accidents in russia in less than twenty years , here. There is even a certificate, more than 100,000, 114 and 9,000 dead. About human imperfection . Im talking about human imperfection; in the case of a car, there is an understanding of how to get rid of this imperfection, because this is Artificial Intelligence, simple imperfection can only send everyone to the cemetery, then this imperfection will leave our lives. Mikhail borisovich, once again, heres another important one, the intelligence is to drive according to the rules of the road, i dont know a single driver who doesnt break them, we will get rid of accidents, and then this Artificial Intelligence will say that in general a person is driving or in a car, this is a certain imperfection, you will say that the person is in the car, if only you had not listened to the song you indicated, but read there i wish there were some books out there or at least movies to watch right now. But this is just a literary work, alexander segevichkin comes to the conclusion that women and men are imperfect, but this does not cancel out love, let us even argue on this topic, isaac kazimov, who wrote something there and now prove everything about him back that this is impossible. I cannot exclude this, in accordance with these actions, then it will be for all of us, i cannot exclude that, having taken two steps, i will not fall under the floor, because under me something will fall apart, this is the same level of assumption as yours, it cannot be ruled out that if i get behind the wheel now, this cannot be ruled out, the level of assumption is the same, no, no, no, a completely different level of assumption, because here comes the question of whether we are risking humanity in the future or not, you showed an excellent example , in fact, 100 years ago the same thing happened in peoples lives, well, you talked about electricity, when cars appeared, they existed in many cities, countries laws that you must walk in front of the car. A man with a lamp in his hand, in order to warn about the movement of a car, they were afraid of him in the same way, there were funny laws that forced you to carry hay in the trunk of a car, there were ludins who broke weaving looms and disabled a lot of equipment, but you need to understand , that the conventional technology to which we are accustomed makes a persons physical capabilities fantastic, and for us this is normal, Artificial Intelligence makes a persons mental abilities unattainable for our Event Horizon today. Because at the point technological singularity of man machine phrases are complete nonsense, it seems to me absolutely nonsense, we think that we will someday develop it, and then we will be able to control it, who said that you can control it, we will not control it if you can control it, he is an imperfect intellect, by the way, who will develop him, is the highest level of intelligence, when can i come to you to finish your life, this is the highest, can i move from a philosophical question to a very specific one in this part, if we are now lets transfer everyone to cars that are controlled by Artificial Intelligence, there will be more or less accidents, there will be fewer accidents, but you are thinking wrong, because what is shown in the example is a car that has machine vision, and which analyzes the traffic situation inside, with in terms of infrastructure, which is an integral part. 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Surely, well, lets put it this way, the choice of leisure, that is, preference, some kind of organizational, it can be boring, yes, let them figure out what to do for me, thats it, thats it, thats enough, wait, of course, what are you talking about, theres nothing artificial yet intelligence, anton, i would give work, cleaning, cooking to Artificial Intelligence, and i would sit, read Science Fiction, which i am so skeptical about, participate in our program, do you think . No, i wish i had read it Science Fiction would have highly intelligent conversations about the development of Artificial Intelligence so you dont work only with these and where do you work of course in the zoo with a crocodile i would use Artificial Intelligence as such a personal assistant make an appointment with a doctor see what kind of tickets there are for a movie show see the air tickets are convenient and cheap or go to the railway to buy or order some products that, well , not food, i like to choose food myself, but i dont need to choose chemicals, toilet paper. You just need to order and cite how it is not necessary . You choose toilet paper every time, andrey vladimoro, no, not every time, but im looking for the one that Artificial Intelligence would find for you, im used to it, okay, im talking about this judicial thing again, i dont want to talk about Artificial Intelligence , but in general this is the story, a young man goes to the post office, takes a telegram form and goes to the table , which means filling out this telegram and sees a strange picture, at the same table there is a man, he has a stack of. Greeting cards, that means , phone, him a smartphone, some kind of database is obviously open there, and a bottle of eau de toilette, a perfume that is clearly feminine, this guy does the following, he takes a postcard. 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