after 2014 as well. as far as nato, consider this. if we had not enlarged nato — and by the way, it wasn't nato that decided to expand into other countries — it is countries seeing the threat coming from russia, desperately wanting to join nato so that they could have some protection. well, with respect, it's a two—way street, of course. you know, there is a feeling in many of the post—soviet east european countries that they wanted the protection of nato, but the existing nato membership had to want to embrace them and feel that was a wise thing to do. i mean, you're a very experienced diplomat. did you never read george kennan before his death writing and saying, "expanding nato would be the most fateful error of american policy in the entire post—cold war era"? look, i don't... i think the enlargement of nato was the single wisest security decision taken in europe
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