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is no doubt about that. but it hasn't shifted the polls. doesn't look like it was a genius idea at the time? that is a cunning bit of political fancy footwork, possibly. i think they were in complete shock they had won this by—election because they were astonished and they thought here is a great opportunity, but as laura says, fundamentally it hasn't shifted the dialogue nationally. what fundamentally it hasn't shifted the dialogue nationally.— dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? _ dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? they - dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? they are . labour on climate? they are promising clean energy by 2030, which to a lot of people might sound like a good thing on the tin. the shadowjustice secretary emitted this morning they will have to have reserves of gas, which they don't like saying so much, it doesn't fit in with the slogan. but the question to them has always been for the last couple of months, how do you pay for this big expensive transition if they are no longer committed to the £20 billion, and also given the giant size of the promises they are making, how do you get there, in

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