Transcripts For CNBC Squawk On The Street 20140516

For the time being. Our road map with the markets under continuing pressure after logging their worst day in more than a month yesterday. Jc penney reporting a smaller than expected First Quarter loss and nordstrom reporting a better than expected firstquarter profit. The seafood lover darden selling red lobster to Golden Gate Capital for 2. 1 billion in cash. A whale tale, the money swimming into verizon. Well explain that later on. All right. Futures as you said, you saw relatively stable after the stock markets worst day in about five weeks. The dow posted the 167point drop. S p fell almost 1 and the nasdaq is now in the midst of a threesession losing streak. During our program yesterday you saw the tenyear note fall below 2. 5 for the First Time Since last october and the russell intraday hit that official correction territory, managed to claw its way out by the end of the day. A lot felt that bounce was significant. You know what, i think that dave tepper really this was a dave tepper selloff and the bonds certainly complied with what tepper was saying. On tuesday will we remember what tepper said . I dont know. Last night we were looking at teppers holdings, buying stocks that would indicate what he was saying, listen, dont be double long. Lot of hedge funds at that conference. It wasnt like there was people who were not 140 long. Saying i would get off margin, i wouldnt be levered here. Well go back to picking stocks and so much good news today, im talking nordstrom, jc penney, rack space, darden, the only one being bad was wwe which i think now i realize was a short squeeze, so you end up saying to yourself, i dont know, i mean should we be as negative as we were . Lets do some of those retail numbers. You mentioned jc penney. Smaller than expected loss. Comps 6. 2. It is the Second Quarter in a row pennys reported higher sales after nine straight quarterly declines. Nordstrom beating expectations with the firstquarter profit of 72 cents. Comps 3. 3. Dillards not bad with comps up 2. Thats a tough place to shop too. Lap customer is back. Quotes from mike alman in a gad quarter. Homes the Home Business was strong. Thats certainly contrary to everything weve been hearing. Two call outs, pvh and nike selling very well. I guess what im dancing around the travel trust i have which is macys which did not say good things about shoe, did not say good things about home, about traffic frankly. Although at the end of the month things were good, but this was a good, clean quarter. Were in the go forward phase. Congratulations mike. Who is going to stay ceo by the way. Yes. No talk any longer at all about a replacement for him saying that sales started to accelerate when the weather turned in april indicating that momentum has continued into may. Yes. Thats important. Which is important. Remember, they went from clearance back to promotion, private labels very good. I think he can resurrect it. Ive always liked mike. I know you have. You thought there was a chance it could be resurrected. I pointed out they are coming from a low base. Fair. You have that 30 straight months of bad comps. I think he refers to it as a 5 billion thats what the ackman thing, the johnson era cost him. About 5 billion. Hes had a clear out, lots of merchandise. Se forera, of course, was his initiative. A store within a store. Ill go there this weekend, go back to jc penney this weekend because i think mikes real deal and if hes got bargains that are promotion a. M. With product that i like, im going to be a buyer. Dont forget they have a third more shares, Something Else to keep in mind. Theyve got when they did when they bagged everybody. All right. Thats true. See cash flow break even. 2 billion in cash. Right. This quarter is a pull through quarter. Theres a lot of tone in the Conference Call that indicates for me, hey, walmart may be walmart, execution problems. Okay. Kohls theyre trying to do a reimage, dont have a chief marketing officer. Jc penney and nordstrom have the pulse. Nordstrom in particular. I pulled up with Blake Nordstrom not that long ago and blake was talking positive, doesnt do much tv, talking about rack and the look. These were extraordinary. The stock is up largely because of the credit card sale, but this one of the last retailers to have that inhouse. They need the money. They spent multiple billions on their omni channel, live across the street from amazon. Right. They have a very good omni channel. Rack, Fastest Growing Retailer Division in the country and people dont talk about it much at all. No kidding. Put up a thousand of them. I had a question as well. Kohls, what to what extension is kohls contributing to pennys . Or is that notp part of this. Or target . Dont know about target. Thats going to be very important. Kohls by itself is saying listen, we are going to embark on a new journey here to fix up the stores. They need help because the stores to me, versus my kids, my kids think stores look great. I think they look the same. But kohls is not a short. Kohls could be a long. Circling back to penny, mike ullman asked about succession. Heres a brief listen as to what he said. As for succession weve made it clear that the 2014 is the go forward phase of our strategy. Were all together with this. The team is very aligned about executing that strategy. No major changes on the horizon. When i pulled up with mike he looked great, crisp, strong, forceful. Where was this mike ullman prior to his leaving . Right . Thats a good question. Second time around. Thats a good question. I think he has it in him. Look, mike is can be an inspiring guy. 117,000 jobs were saved. I think thats important. Darn right its important. Right. Its important because thats an actual portion of the country that obama does not need to go down and its not going to go down. I urge everyone to listen to a Conference Call that is really about a company that has recovered that most people thought couldnt recover. No. Customer count going up. Move on to a company that employs about 200,000 people, darden restaurants, announcing its selling its red lobster seafood chain to Golden Gate Capital for 2. 1 billion in cash. The deal addresses key issues shareholders have raised including the need to preserve the companys dividend and regain momentum at olive guard wherein samestore sales fell 5. 4 in the quarter ending january. An interesting transaction for a rare isty of reasons. 2. 1 billion sold to golden gate. They do dabble or have a presence in a number of well known names, california, pizza, zales, but their focus on technology, enterprise software. Theyre separately doing a 1. 5 billion sale leaseback with American Realty capital properties. Most aggressive reit. Buying 500 red lobsters and giving 1. 5 billion to golden gate. Golden gate separately is borrowing the money to pay 2. 1 billion to darden to own red lobster. You could kind of net them out and say theyre spending about 600 million to buy red lobster. Buy a money loser. Right. Theyll be paying rent on these locations obviously to theyre calling it a cap rate at 9. 9 . Thats what this will yield to arcp. Theres a number of plays in here whether arcp or darden. I have tried to call jeff smith from starboard this morning, i have not spoken to him. I left a message. Havent spoken to him. To see if you recall, the big activist investor saying do not spin this off, do not do anything, lets have a special meeting, and figure out what to do with you. He got 57 which was an incredibly high number to agree to call that special meeting. It ir still saying at darden they will call the meeting but this does not need a shareholder vote. And otis keeps his job. Otis keeps his job even though theyve put out a lot of stories he does too much work away, private jet, all this stuff. He keeps his job. A strong transaction for darden. The buyback will be aggressive. People tell s selling have to understand olive garden still has a great crowd. Why is that some. It tastes good and inexpensive. Why is red lobster tired some. People are tired of the oktoberfest, same old same old. People associate that food with a not great healthy for you. The deadliest catch guys when i pull up with them, they hate red lobster, say thats the price generator of everything they bring in. If you like the guys which i happen to on deadliest catch i never went back after they went back. Ive never been. The trouble when they are all together, is red lobster is not large enough, if you were to turn it around, to offset weakness in olive garden. Red lobster, geez, when i go there, its like wow. Its i just find that i want seafood that make mess lose weight, not gain weight. What gave it away, the cup of butter or the fried shrimp. The schooner . The cup of butter thats a good call. I think that chipotle where they how do you like the way they slap those guys down, but, you know crazy. Yes 75 vote against on the compensation plan. May be overcompensated but some would argue hey, theyve delivered an enormous amount of shareholder value. A surcharge on guacamole. Theyre putting food price increases ever so regina my executive producer got slammed with a 2 surcharge. Raising prices. Numbers are coming up. That stock you know what as Kevin Kingsbury pointed out on dow jones. Red lobster 2, cmg is 15 in terms of billion to market cap. Cmg has other irons in the fire and roll things out slowly. I was shocked so many voted against their pay. Was that not unbelieve smbl. Important story not getting quite enough attention. Especially paying it some right now. Thats an important story in the compensation pay. Theres going to be more. One im looking at closely well talk about it next week. I have to keep doing my work. Youre still focused on the work. I am. You always let the facts get in the way of the story which distinguishes you from so many others. Try not to rush it. Just rounding out on darden, just they are using a billion of the proceeds to retire debt and another 5 to 600 million for new share repurchase. Right. Up to 700 million in fiscal 15. Theyre also talking about g and a being steady at 5 of sales at what remains, of course, which is essentially olive garden to sort of well keep an eye on that stock. If i hear from jeff smith what he had to say as well. A rather remarkable transaction. The spinoff thing i thought was flawed. Could be a fraudulent. You were against the spinoff. Now they do the sale. Wouldnt have been bad. Regulatory filings show buff let, lobe and paulson have added those stake ps in verizon. Should you do the same. Also ahead, Electronics Arts founder, former strategy executive trip hawkin, Silicon Valley entrepreneur has a unique take on tech. Stick around to find out what were talking about. One more look at the premarket. S p on track for a down week. Know what that means. First backtoback losses since january on a weekly bases for the s p. Squawk on the street live from post nine at the nyse when we return. Shares of verizon on the rise this morning. Buffets Berkshire Hathaway dan loebs third point, paulson and company have added new stake in the dow component according to Regulatory Filings as it applies to berkshire. About 528 million and talk about how todd combs is evolving the portfolio, maybe deep near tech. I mean verizon is a yielder that has consisting cash flow that did a good deal. I know everyone is jumping all over the stock and by tuesday that will be forgotten. People say why did i pay up. What was going on. I happen to like verizon. You pay up 74 cents on a one of these statements the 13 that is filed and they sold it the next time you see it. I mean this is just stupid. Its stupid. I like verizon. Not going to hurt verizon. Ivan was the ceo. But you jump all over it because of these filings youre dumb as wood no offense to Louisiana Pacific which makes the best board there is. We point out the 13 fs are dated oftentimes. The vodafone transaction, the largest of all time, you know, great decision by them in terms of where they access the capital at the rates they did. Although they missed the bottom of it. Yes. You cant complain. You cant complain if youre verizon. You got it done. By the way theres going to be paying down debt for a while that may actually prevent them from participating in what seems to be this potential next rounds of consolidation. We get at t and direct, which i dont know youre right. Or whatever may happen. You know, also i wonder how many guys were in vodafone and end up from verizon. I dont want to draw its interesting a little. A little. Yeah. Right. But i mean look, verizon is not youre not buying salesforce. Com when youre buying verizon. How about icahn upping his apple stake. He kind of tweeted he was going to tweeting his 13 filings. Look i think apple remains an inexpensive stock. I know no one wants to hear that. They want to hear something is going to happen. Its not. Its just an inexpensive stock. 600 has proven to be resistance. Thats just wow. You cant get through that brick wall. Why is that . I dont know. The chart is telling me over and over again, the guys are telling me when is the split happening. Shortly. That will be interesting. That will do away with 600. Remember what happens is people get seven shares will probably sell three four. Not like an event you want to get ahead of. The Developers Conference is the beginning of june an rumors that somehow if there is news to be had it might come then. Well see. I tend to not like the situations where you guys celebrating they got a deal and then come in on monday and we didnt see a deal. Some people must know something and others dont. Thats not good disclosure just for the record. When we come back, jims mad dash and count down to the opening bell. The last one of this week. On monday an entire you do not want to police. An exclusive with the ceo of pepsico indra nooyi. Sara will have that. Another look at futures, more squawk on the street from the nyse is straight ahead. But what if you could see more of what you wanted to know . With fidelitys new active trader pro investing platform, the information thats important to you is all in one place, so finding more insight is easier. Its your idea powered by active trader pro. Another way fidelity gives you a more powerful investing experience. Call our specialists today to get up and running. All right. Nine minutes before the last trading session of the week. Weve got two shockers. May in the works here. Two shockers. Start with rack space. Okay. Rack space on the call on may 12th and its like wow, its good. The cash flow is real good, starting to get better and jpmorgan said look, said listen, its time to buy the 15th. Buy rack space its overweight. Bingo. Theyre for sale. Come out and say theyve gotten inbound inquiries. Morgan stanley has been hired and now theyre considering selling themselves. I find this shocking. I mean did it really all happen within the quarter . Could they not mention on the Conference Call. How does it work . Well how is that possible . Well they make a decision to put themselves up for sale essentially is what they more or less have done. Just announcing the quarter. Is that right . The timing is a bit strange, i agree. I dont know when the inbound inquiries came in but i agree. Talking about going to a conference i like rackspace intelligent cloud whats it worth . Cisco is moving in. I think that cisco newly newly not energized. Rejuvenated. Cisco, i believe in you now. But emc is coming in. I was shocked at this. Shocked. I mean theres people short rackspace up the whatzoo. Theyre covering now. Saying like were 60 plus thats wrong little high the company does have intelligent cloud and everybody thought they could be amazon but they have value added. It shocked me. From up 20 to down i dont even know, wwe, certainly a body slam. Benchmark security telling you its going to happen two all my hulk maniacs take your vitamins and youll never go wrong. You better lean on the hulkster. The money from the new deal with nbc is disappointing. In other words, they renewed, what nbc already had. Domestic tv deal spoo but they kept it. They didnt find anybody else an didnt get necessarily a higher price. It was less than expected. The key is the costs having to do with the new network, the wwe network, what theyre going to get to in terms of operating income before appreciation and amortization given their cost structure which seems to be going like this. Right. I think its just deferred. I think its not destroyed. I think theres value here. I think this is an over react they feel very theres value here. Value right there. Im just kidding. Base camp two is always whatever. I dont think its so bad. You dont . I think they look there were do you have a thesis on why its not so bad . They still have a road pap. It road map. Its going to take longer. To get to the 125 million theyre looking for, they need to get to over 2 million subs instead of their credibility is completely shot. I hear you. But at nine bucks, i dont know. Waiting for eight months to see how they do, it might pay. This is a wild company by the way. Its been a wild trader. And its like electronic arts. 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Cnbc has learned that General Motors and the department of transportation will be entering a Consent Decree, essentially this decree is General Motors agreeing to pay a substantial fine regarding the timeliness of how it handled the ignition switch recall in terms of conveying information to the federal government as well as to consumers. We understand that the Consent Decree is regarding the timeliness. We do not know the fine General Motors will be paying regarding this issue. During a press conference coming up later this morning, the department of transportation will make it clear this investigation into the ignition switch recall is continuing. There are a number of issues that still need to be worked out but at this point, we can tell you that General Motors will be paying a fine relative to the issue of how quickly or how not quickly the Company Handled getting information to the federal Government Regarding the ignition switch. Back to you. Phil, we should point out youre going to take stock of the entire recall in your documentary this weekend, right. Absolutely. And this is front and center in the documentary failure to recall. The investigating General Motors. Front and cen center is what did General Motors know, when did they know it and why didnt the federal government get more information from General Motors in a quicker fashion which obviously the government says look, if we had more information, if we had more detailed information we would have prompted them to initiate a recall sooner. Thats in the documentary. That is a central question were going to be looking into. Phil, substantial could mean a lot of Different Things. Absolutely. To a lot of people. Any sense in terms of actual size here or not . No. Too early. Ive talked with a number of sources in detroit as well as in washington. Nobody wants to put a number on it yet, but keep in mind, you know, the maximum fine for d. O. T. Is 35 million. Thats a slap not a slap on the wrist for General Motors. I think its going to be much more substantial than that. Okay. Well see what they say at 11 15. Phils documentary airs sunday night, 10 00 p. M. Eastern time, called failure to recall. Right here on cnbc. Meantime we got a day where Housing Starts beat all three retailers, post positive comps. Will be a record for nordstrom. Nordstrom sold the credit card receivables. Worth pointing out, they dont like the darden number but they do love the [ inaudible ] number. Dillards is soaring. Theyve got dillard, jc penney, of nordstrom. And you start thinking wait a second, how bad is retail . You get that housing start number, start thinking how bad is housing. A lot of people say jim you dont know what youre talking about, the housing number is bad. This is a lying eye to the situation. My eyes saw it. They could be wrong. I have to get to the op that mol gist. I look at the number better than expected, never outthink it. You cant hide your lying eyes as the eagles once said. Down at the big board, jumeje of Beauty Products celebrating its ipo. Lot of chinese ipo. Over at the nasdaq, celebrating its ipo truecar a website that offers up front car pricing estimates. Well talk to the ceo after the stock opens. And your tip about vips got a lot of attention. Look, i want to my hats off to jim stewart who introduced my to vips a long time ago. His columbia class which is the most journalism class, mixed, but does they dot most thorough analysis. I had the privilege of addressing this class. Came up with that one as the best stock for 2014. I kind of jotted it down. Holy cow. I know. Interesting. In the 10 00 i interviewed john burbank who runs passport. That was a great interview. Second largest or Third Largest holding as i mean as it would be coincidence. Talking about that when we think of ecommerce and china you may think alibaba, thats all you think, but there have are a lot of smaller but important companies. With great bargains and large brand names that were all familiar with. Its like is it going to be the online walmart . I dont know. But its got good pricing. Attractive site. I could not read a word of it. How is that going . I dont know. How is your mandarin. Not as good as i feel like the greatest speech ever, the kevin durant speech, where i dont understand a word youre saying but i like you. Dow is relatively flat but what the benefits are going to come from verizon today. Best performing component. Look, again, i go back over whos filing, who likes this, doesnt like that. You saw leon cooperman loves jpmorgan and other guys who say listen, you cant touch jpmorgan. We dont know. I mean maybe bought jpmorgan at the absolute bottom and the other guy sold jpmorgan before the breakdown in the quarter we dont know when people sold. We dont know when people bought. Importantly yesterday in addition to all the internet rules so to speak that we received or Different Things that we got from the fcc, we got the rules on the auction of socalled incentive auctions that will take place in 2015 of what is held by the broadcasters. Its been a key consideration, in fact, not just for sprint and tmo to see how much might be available to them and not to at t and verizon, but also, for at t and verizon. They can still secure meaningful lowband spectrum at the upcoming auction. It didnt come out that badly for verizon and at t in terms of not being able to participate perhaps to a certain extent. Thats news. And that was helpful. That may be another reason why verizon is up. Importantly, of course, sprint and tmo looking and watching closely to see what rules are and now i think you start to see potential momentum again for something ive been talking about here for a very long time, which is softbanks desire to get a deal to try and acquire tmo by sprint which it controls, getting getting the germans to agree to hammer out that deal, even though its clear there will be opposition from the fcc and the doj. That stock sprik spiked yest. I watched the spike talking about disclosure, give me a break, come in and buy that stock up you know something thats not right. Some know more than others. You have to figure out a break fee and how they go about doing that and what the numbers look like. A lot to consider there, but again, as i have been reporting for some time, it is whats going to happen it is the single focus of massa son and softbank to get this done. We need scale. We wake up on monday and a lead story in the journal say sprint and tmobile might merge. Wont mention any of the month work you did and i will come in and say they broke the story, david. Well jc penney up 16 . Weve been through the numbers. Gross margins up, comps up 6. They only forecast 3 to 5 back in february. Look, liquidity off the table, first thing you do when they do a turnaround. Well done. Secondly you clear the merchandise out that was bad. Third you try to bring back st. Johns bay, worthington and pvh they have izod which a lot of us felt was a tired brand but he said this was an Important Initiative for jc penney, close to mike ullman and pvh travel trust should go higher. Highest of the year for jc penney. Unp the two for one raising their capex a touch for 2014. People are going to say lets buy trinity the railcar company. The stock is up big. Not surprising that its not giving that its giving up a little. Almost a 52week high. Union pacific has done so many great things. They preannounced around 160, dropped to 150 and then its been on fire. They are a huge, huge, huge mover of oil and you keep coming back to these oil companies, basically saying you know what, you dont want to do pipe, we got to get it to you, use rail. Union pacific forward looking. Theyre also just a big intermodal and shipping to california to be able to send to china. I saw the baltic freight up again. Baby steps, Third Straight day. Is that important . Baltic freight determined the big decline in china. If it stabilizes people will say stabilization at a lower level. Right. Interesting to note that darden shares we mentioned are down 3. 5 on this deal. People feel otis keeps his job and theres no takeover. There was more to be realized from red lobster. I know smith at starboard has been talking about that, but i see. Takes the steam out of the move. Might have been more value perhaps, although again i havent heard from him. Just looking back at his presentations hes been making. Not a great reception for that deal. And getting pushback that rackspace is for sale and wont mean that much. Look, rackspace if there was a buyer, this stock would be up more than it is. If there was Something Else going on, a buyer waiting in the wings for darden it would not be down. Maybe theres no buyers waiting in the wings and people made contact rackspace. Isnt up as much as i thought it would be. Well see. Just important to point out inbound inquiries, i have nothing to share. I have not spoken to anybody in terms of getting sense as to whether there is a process or will be or how significant the inquiries are. I have been negative to the quarter. The quarter was strong on the cash flow basis. People felt this was a commodity product, able to distinguish themselves in a world where amazon keeps cutting prices. Right. A couple reports about startups, pinterest raising a couple hundred million, valued at five and reports ubber is looking to raise hundreds of millions valued at ten. Air b and b is at ten. These fees on hold thats why i dont like that group. I know when we saw at the White House Correspondent dinner the man behind ubber, travis, he was telling me basically he will be the richest most powerful man on earth certainly eclipsing massa son. And it was like one of those moments i said fine, im going to get cocktail. Good for you. Looking forward to having an interview when they take that company public. The most powerful man on earth. Before that i had been with the most interesting man on earth when i have a beer i like to share. The most interesting man, most powerful man. Quite a moment. He was bullish on travis and ubber. Yes. Ubber. He said do you have an account . I said yeah, i got an account. Hes saying 10 billion is the sky is the limit. What is interesting about many of the companies that choose to stay private and do these continual rounds, raising the valuation is, that a lot of their growth is taking place and when they do hit this floor or when they come public, we will start to question whether the best of their growth is behind them. Oh, yeah. And many of these Venture Investors in as opposed to perhaps the larger although we see now hedge funds starting to do more Venture Investing and the likes. The Public Markets are not able to participate as much. I dont like the value if they they got to keep pumping out these stocks, im going to tell you, the ipo market will not be receptive to the valuations that venture capitalists are but the bankers will feel beholden to the capitalists and get the deals done and force them down the publics throat issuing maybe only 7 of the stock, fool everybody and fool none. You get the lockup expectation as we did in twitter. Benchmark is not a seller every other firm was. Walk outside a piano hits you on the head, wow that hurt. All those guys. Im with you totally. Sold to you. Sold to you. With that, dow is up 7 and Bo Bob Pisani bob pisani is on the floor. Mixed markets but the action in the ipo space. Look at jumai here. Waiting for a pop for one of the ipos and got it. Online Beauty Products priced 11. 1 million shares above the expectation shares at 22. The price talk, 19. 50. 25 to 27 is the indication. Increase in the size and price, i havent seen that in ages. I had to check on that, all the way back grub hub the last company that had an increase in the size and price, thats a good indication but tough market for ipos. A deal on nasdaq not as successful so far, truecar, which is auto comparison website, priced at 9. Price talk 12 to 14. What happened there . Totally different space. Much smaller margins and hard to get repeat customers on that. How many times do people buy a consider. Has not opened. Well see how that opens. Very tough in the ipo market so far. Look at Renaissance Capital ipo, heres whats important. It closed at a new low yesterday. Thats the main indication. 60 recent ipos. Theres your indication. St still waiting for a clear bottom. Half of the 107 ipos that have traded so far this year are still below their initial price. Half of the 107. Thats not a good healthy market. Meantime everybody is talking about india, mody, landslide win there since 84 single party has won a clear majority. The bombay sensex, your main index, new high, how do you play india and theres etfs, a number of etfs. You can play a lot of ways. One of the main wanes, the nifty fifthy, 50 biggest stocks in india at a hue high as well. Wisdom tree has a wellregarded etf. Heres the one i think is most interesting, infrastructure etf for india, amazing how they sliced and diced these. Consists of 30 companies that are in the infrastructure business, there it is, inxx. Mody made it clear that infrastructure is a primary way hes going to try to move the economy and a lot of people are interested in looking at that particular one. Take a look at india stocks. The big names. Ta tta, the big bank, they trade in the United States. Flat right now. Icic bank up 7 . Retail earnings you have lit on this. Ill make it blunt to you. Nordstrom and jc penney and dillard had generally their numbers a little above expectations but pretty dismal and heres what one encouraging thing i would say. The guidance has been stable. I think thats very important. So macys and nordstrom at least reiterated their guidance. Last week, cato, gap, l brands also raised their guidance. I think thats fairly encouraging. Its been pretty awful if you look at the numbers. So the 51 companies that have reported so far, retail metrics, earnings are down 3. 7 year over year for the 51 companies. About 120 retailers. Half of the season is over and earnings are down 4 year over year. Tough start to the year. The dow down 7 points. Thank you very much, bob. From one floor to the other, lets get the bond pit action, Rick Santelli in the cme in chicago. Good morning, rick. Good morning carl. I know the housing numbers were much better than expected. We all agree. We also need to be very objective. The existing home market is bigger than the new home market. Look at multifamily, i believe they went from 303,000 on an annualized basis to 423. Thats, what, close to 40 increase whereas Single Family moved from 644 to 649. Thats 644,000 to 649,000 on an annualized basis. Thats a little less than 1 . Not that it isnt good news. But in the context of the entire Housing Market, we need to acknowledge that multifamilies have been on a tear as of late and the economic implications are that family creation Single Family creation is more robust for the economy. Now if we look at tenyear note yields theyre up a couple basis points today. Theyre down about 11 basis points on the week. One day and a two day are pretty interesting. If you open it up to july, you know, many were saying we didnt close the lowest yield since july. Depend where you marked the market on the close. In my case it was since july of last year. Others saying october. Were splitting hairs. The fulcrum around 2. 5 . The boon yields it is at a oneyear low hovering higher than the 130 it hit yesterday but does drive home the point that you have the same dynamics in europe that you have in the u. S. Sovereign, ends up going lower yield, as things disappoint a bit but you have to do the spread against the southern europeans. Speaking of which, look at a 20year chart of tenyear spanish rates. 20year chart you can see they popped up yesterday and back down a little today. Theyre virtually at the lowest yields ever. You need to ponder that considering if you dig down in their internals wow, theyve wall papered over termites. Month to date on the euro versus the dollar. It stabilized. It stabilized at lower level but this stabilization does call into question can the eurozone and ecb and all the technocrats deliver their promises on the ba zu kas. Amendme im not sure. Back to you. Rick santelli. When we come back we are on ipo watch. Car pricing comparison website truecar going public today. Still waiting for their opening. When that happens we will talk with the ceo Scott Painter who actually once served as an early adviser to tesla. Squawk on the street is back in a minute. Monday we enter squawk alley. Intersection of wall street and technology. Focused on three things, growth, operating efficiency and operating leverage. In the long run i expect to see us grow into very large media companies. Thats how this company is going to reinvent itself, how its done it the pasts two decades and again. The structure of the organization the company that were building. Its been about the mission. 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Remember those stocks are still out of favor and theyre all part of the collapse of when you mention the when bob pisani gave you that information, the biotech stocks have been horrible, the ones that came public, the worst of the worse. I think intermun is for real. Think about taking a look at it. Abbott news today picking up a uit. Latin american company. 2. 9 billion deal we didnt mention. Brand of generics. Its not an inversion. Right. Doesnt count. Latin America Latin america, a lot of companies go down and get killed in argentina and killed in venezuela, they dont care. Clorox, big venezuela business. It is amazing how often we read an Earnings Release and see currency change because of venezuela. No one wants to leave. Rick santelli has Consumer Sentiment. Breaking news preliminary may michigan Consumer Sentiment 81. 8. Now, its easy to find the comp. We go to the winter months. March. When it dropped down to 80. 0. If you overlook that and try to look beyond the weather implications youre looking at november when 75. 1. This could change. This is following a final read last month for april which stands at 84. 1. Back to you. All right. Thank you very much, Rick Santelli. We want to talk about whats coming up on mad money tonight. We have aqua america. A lot want water plays. This is a water play. Solid kind of quiet growth stock. Trying to feature companies that are not wild that people can say you know what, this is not going to be an inversion necessarily, its not going to blow up. Not software as a as some sort of disservice to your portfolio, not biotech. Its water. You know what you can do worse in this environment than water. When you think back to this week. Does it make sense at 2. 6, everything was okay, but at 2. 46 the world was falling apart . Absolutely not. Well say why didnt we think it was just because there was a bond shortage. Spain. Having traded bonds for a living, the money is just you can go buy spain, german, italy on the wire, and i think whats going to happen were going to say Interest Rates going lower, always good for stocks. So lets not lose sight of the fact that the market had moved up a great deal, david tepper i think is a smart man, not taking anything away from him, but stocks that got hammered yesterday that are coming back today. Lets not lose sight of that. Keep our headser. Have a good weekend. See you tonight. Pulitzerprize winning columnist jim stewart, growth versus value after the selloff and tenth anniversary of the queen mary 2. Live to the berth in brooklyn in just a minute. In todays market, a lot can happen in a second. With fidelitys guaranteed onesecond trade execution, we route your order to up to 75 Market Centers to look for the best possible price, maybe even better than you expected. Its all part of our goal to execute your trade in one second. 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The dow lost 1 , the s p 500 almost the same as you can see. Lets get analysis bringing in charlie, vice chairman and Portfolio Manager with aerial investments to offer technical perspective, dan fitzpatrick. Gentlemen, good morning. Good morning. Charlie, it seems to me this was a very important week for the markets because we had genuine fear, visible this week and a widespread concern now that were not going to see the sort of explosive growth that so many people had said we would do. What is your take now as we head into the weekend . Youre absolutely right. Thats the best time to be a buyer when there is fear. Weve had people be relatively confident about the economy at the end of the year and people have gotten negative. People who had been bullish are getting bearish. We thought todays housing start number was very solid. Wing think theres we think theres better opportunities to invest today than a month ago. Economy is going to get better. Housing will help the economy. Energy is strong. Autos are strong. We think were going to have a good 2014. Charlie, we interview on this hour equity strategists from big banks all the time. And very, very seldom do they actually say what david tepper said yesterday, which is the market as far as hes concerned, is looking dangerous and you shouldnt be too freakin long of stocks. Why is that, charlie . Why do so few say what david tepper said sp. Actually, i think thats becoming more of a consensus view. There are a lot of people who are very nervous about this market. Wave gone up a long way over the last five years, and people do correctly say markets dont go up forever. People are nervous about the economy. The First Quarter numbers, flat gdp growth scared a lot of people. We believe that a lot of that was weather related and that were going to now start seeing the true fundamental strength in this economy. Dan, a lot of the tectonic plates in the market have moved significantly, not just the yield on the tenyear, the russell 2000, everywhere you look stuff seems to be happening. From a technical perspective, what can you pick out for us as being the most important . Well, what i look at really lately is the railroad index, i look at that, financials. We are in consolidation, simon. This is not a momentum driven market anymore. So im looking at key levels. We actually tested a key level just heard you mention about the tenyear treasuries, the yield, down at 2. 5 . That really has to hold. Thats to me a big deal because but weve tested it several times over the last five months or so. I think three times tested it again yesterday, and thats held. Every time its been tested the market has continued higher. I look at that. If you want to go into that chart even more, though, you can see potentially a double top. There are definitely technical issues with this market, but when you really think about it, as our other guest just mentioned, these technical issues every time it seemed like the market was topping, have actually been buying opportunities and you have to stick with that pattern until the one time when it breaks. Nobody can really predict when that is. Charlie, i wonder why we havent seen a fullblown correction or anything like it. Even with the bumps and bruises, the volatility weve seen recently, the dow is pretty much unchanged for the year. Yeah. Because theres nowhere else to go with your money. The answer to your question is, there are no good opportunities in bonds. Bonds are grossly overpriced. People dont want to earn zero on their cash. And so equities relative to other alternatives may not be screaming cheap but they arent overvalued like bonds. That gives an underlying floor to the stock market. We offer, charlie, importantly, we have one underlying floor of the stock market thats being removed explicitly and that is the Federal Reserve which is exes itting its money exiting its money printing and will move Interest Rates. If you dont have that floor, and you have confidence ever slightly, doesnt that mean that the multiple at which the market trade, in other words the price that people are prepared to pay for stocks on a given revenue stream, could slip and, therefore, the market could fall . Youre right. That is the big risk. What happens if Interest Rates go up a lot. I would argue that if Interest Rates stayed at 2. 5 , the stock market is grossly underpriced. The stock market is already taking into account an increase in the risk free rate. So i would argue that if we get what everybody expects, which is a tenyear at 3. 50 it wont be that bad for the stock. Dan, how do you square the fact that the small caps are clearly in the cross hairs and bearing the brunt of the selling and have actually been in 10 or more selloff territory with the fact that you see a better economy and a more optimistic view of corporate earnings and of this economy . Well, the small caps, the pullback in those, thats really just pure momentum. Thats the way i look at that. And theres a consensus out there that once the small caps crack, the rest of the market follows. And thats really not born out by the data. So you have to look at the small caps but i just see money coming into the market as literally a lack of opportunity. Youre always looking for growth. Whats happening . This money is coming out of the momentum names going into these solid stocks. A lot of these dow components, a lot of the industrial stocks, some of the not so much the financials, but definitely the industrial stocks are up. Theyre continuing to track along these alltime highs and thats really what you want to see. Frankly, the healthiest thing for the market would be to just driven sideways and frustrate the heck out of investors for as long as possible. Wow. Thats really the way i look at it. You really want to see a base built here. I dont want to see the momentum names come back. I dont want to be a cheerleader for the market. I want to be an investor in the market and make money slowly and steadily. The momentum names have broken. Its going to take a while to repair that. Okay. So many questions, guys. Thank you for answering at least some of them. Dan fitzpatrick and charlie. Have a great weekend. Thanks for having me. You have deal news today related to a contested situation involving darden restaurants. It has announced it is selling its red lobster unit to golden gate ka tall for 2. 1 billion in cash. The deal price will result in 1. 6 billion in proceeds after tax to darden. A billion of that will go towards retiring debt and 600 million toward increase in stock buyback up to 700 million. Darden will maintain it 2. 20 cent annual dividend. Starboard the activist fund which owns more than 5 of darden shares succeeded in having shareholders call for a special meeting or get consent to call for a special meeting to stop what it felt was an unwise and rapid too rapidly deployed plan to spin off red lobster. Darden saying they contacted as many as 70 potential strategic and financial buyers for this unit, ran a real estate process to facilitate a sale leaseback financing. That is a part of this deal. Golden gate will have a 1. 5 billion sale leaseback of the more than 500 Red Lobster Restaurants it will take possession of with American Realty, tripling at least reit, so theyre going to take in 1. 5, give out 2. 1 billion, whats it cost them . About 600 million to take over what is a not a strong performer at this point in terms of red lobster. For darden its saying we can now focus on our olive garden franchise to a certain or lesser extent, capital grill, longhorn steak house. They announced the plan to separate back in september despite what was significant opposition from what might have been a lot of their shareholder base. For how theyre responding this morning, you saw the stock down a little less than 4 . Does not require a shareholder vote although darden saying they will hold at some point this special meeting that their shareholders did request using the consent process. First red lobster, 1968. Did you know that . I did not. I remember going as a kid. Long time. Rbc out saying they estimate 60 of the new darden will be olive. Thats a lot. It is. And, you know, clearance otis for his part seems to have kept his job for now. Although a lot of criticism . Terms of what the company is doing and how theyre performing. Their claim once we get red lobster out of the way, they say theyre selling nine times ebitda, were going to proceed with our plan to remake this company and focus on that franchise. When we come back, obviously a rough week for the retail sector. Major names like walmart, kohls, pulling the index down, but its not over until its over. Some bright spots from penny, nordstrom, dillards spiking on positive results. How to play that. Youve heard about gms recall. Whats it really like to be driving when your car just shuts down . Were going to demo that next here on squawk on the street. announcer scottrade knows our clients trade and invest their own way. With scottrades smart text, i can quickly understand my charts, and spend more time trading. Their quick trade bar lets my account follow me online so i can react in realtime. Plus, my local scottrade office is there to help. Because they know i dont trade like everybody. I trade like me. Im with scottrade. announcer scottrade. 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You know, michael, serious signs of hope in this jc penney report wouldnt you say . Look we upgraded it from a sale to a neutral last week and theyre doing everything they can. The stock story felt pretty bad to us until recently you look at what theyre dealing with a year ago when, you know, they had the ceo ron johnson from apple really started feeling like his job was at risk and strategy unwinding it made for easy comparison and the business looks like its improved a bit. A bit is the key word you said there. Clearly mr. Ullman has managed to stop the bleeding but its going to take a long time to get this company back to growth and profitability if he can do that. Can he . I mean, absolutely. I think as michael said you have to look at the comparison. Were up against almost a negative 20 on top of a negative 20. So yes things are getting better. I think one of the crucial keys is that theyre bringing back private labels, something that was taken away. It has a much higher gross margin so that certainly is helping here. Basically hes undoing, hes doing a lot of damage control, from what ron johnson brought in. But i think, you know, the second half of the year will really be telling in terms of after we get through all that mess and comparisons get tougher, what is the business really look like . Michael, what about you. The company is still losing money. Can he return his company to profitability and when does that happen . I still have my doubts about that only because they had to take on so much debt to stabilize the business last year and they have a big, big Interest Payment thats going to lean on their cash flow for a number of years. What stacy said is directionally correct. Going up against having almost 20 of their Square Footage offline and construction on the home department. More normal business comparison in the second half of the year its easier than the first half to show that your business is growing or improving sequentially. As they start to lap business conditions, theyre going to be in a lot of the same situation that other retailers are as we see from macys and kohls this week its very competitive throughout. You know, stacy, seems to me the danger here is everything gets black and white. Ron johnson bad, ullman good, here we go, Short Covering rally, stock shoots up. Any recovery to which both of you are alluding is going to be very difficult, very patchy and going to go forwards and backwards presumably down that track. So my question is, stacy, can people buy in because this is the bottom or would that be a dangerous thing to do . Yeah. I mean simon, the stock has moved on average 12 over the past six, seven quarters going out of earnings here. So you have to look at the business. Obviously not going to be a Straight Line here. There are things they can do again to undo things that ron johnson did to stabilize the business, but again, their margins are down almost 1,000 basis points from several years ago, lost 40 of their sales so getting back to stability and profitability, its a long way away from here. The other big question looming over this Company Michael is the succession issue. Mike ullman was asked about it. Sort of dodged the issue. Should investors be worried that there doesnt seem to be a candidate in sight . I think that, you know, its been the company has been embraced the fact that he wouldnt be there for a long, long time, ever since he got back and he was the right guy for the job at the time to help stabilize it. Its not like its new news if they say we are looking for somebody. If theres credible Retail Management out there looking to do Something Else, this is one of the very one of the harder situations i can think of to come back from in the u. S. Its going to take someone special to do this but theres still a lot of challenges ahead. All right. Thanks to you both for joining us on jc penney. Certainly it is a stock mover today. The stock up nicely, michael and stacy on jc penney. Coming up in just under an hour the department of transportation is holding a press conference and cnbc has learned it will announce a substantial fine against gm relating to its investigation into the faulty ignition switch that led to at least 13 deaths. 2. 5 million cars were recalled due to a deadly ignition switch problem in which some vehicles would lose power. Phil lebeau experienced that first hand and joins us with more. The faulty ignition switch resulted in at least 13 deaths and 31 accidents. It is hard to understand exactly what it would feel like for a car to suddenly lose power while driving so i went behind the wheel of a recalled chevy cobalt with the faulty ignition switch. Take a look. Jake fisher, director of auto testing at the nonprofit consumer reports, is showing us why 2. 6 million gm cars are being recalled. How easy is it going to be for me to accidentally turn off the ignition and put it in depends how much is hanging off the key ring. There. After a tug on the key chain, i deliberately steer the car back and forth. The power steering is gone. Theres a lot of engine power, power steering and power brakes. It is not easy to avoid the cones. I did it, but its not that easy. How much effort did you have to use in the Steering Wheel to use . Quite a bit. The flaw in the ignition system makes it possible to turn the key off accidentally. On the road it can lead to an anxious moment, sudden surprise, or worse. And the other thing to keep in mind when the ignition switch is going back to the accessory mode, in other words not in the run position but back to accessory mode, you have the loss of air bags. No power to fire the air bags in case of an accident and thats at the center of this investigation thats being conducted by the national Highway Traffic Safety Administration and department of justice as they look into what General Motors knew or didnt know and shared with the federal government over the last ten years. So this is at the heart of this entire recall, carl, this issue of the key sliding back into the accessory position, how easily can that happen and General Motors by the way have made it clear that they think these cars are safe to drive until theyre fixed with just a single key in the ignition. Nothing hanging off of it. No weight at all on it. Phil, we cant wait for this sunday night. Phil lebeau. Tune in sunday, 10 00 p. M. Eastern and pacific for the premier of failure to recall investigating gm here on cnbc. Lets send it over to dominic chu for a market flash. Carl, so check out whats happening with Canadian Solar which is getting hit hard and tragsds the Solar Panel Maker forecasting much lower than expected Quarterly Sales as it expects to recognize most project sales later on. Investors are being impatient for right now. The stock is down toward session lows. Back over to you. Thank you very much, dominic chu. Up next were live on board what some call the grandest ocean liner ever built. The queen mary 2. Celebrities and royals have been passengers. Now it turns ten. A birthday celebration. Next. On cnbc. All stations come over to mission a for a final go. This is for real this time. Step seven point two one two. Verify and lock. Command is locked. Five seconds. Three, two, one. Standing by for capture. The most Innovative Software on the planet. Dragon is captured. Is connecting todays leading companies to places beyond it. Siemens. Answers. Sfx car unlock beep. Vo davids heart attack didnt come with a warning. 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Last monday queen mary 2 sailed from southampton to mark the tenth anniversary of her first westbound transatlantic crossing and today here in new york, were doing exactly the same in reverse, an we are celebrating the departure of the tenth anniversary ebay transatlantic crossing back to southampton. Is she still the worlds largest, longest, tallest, widest and most expensive ocean liner to be built and fastest sailing today . More than the titanic or qe2 that preceded her . Oh, yes. This ship in terms of sheer volume is twice as big as the qe2 and about four times as big as the titanic. Yes, this is the largest oceanliner which has ever been built and, of course, is afloat today. To people who dont cruise the emotions you guys have about ships is something of a mystery. But how do you feel about the ship . Well, this ship is absolutely unique in this day and age. Unlike the very many cruise ships which have entered service in the last 10 or 20 years, queen mary 2 is an oceanliner and theres a really important distinction. This ship carries forward the great traditions of sailing by sea on these liners which was i think in its hayday in th the 30s, 40s and 50s. What we offer on board is designed for todays modern traveler but the heritage, the style, and the sheer glamour is preserved here on queen mary 2 as on no other ship. The heritage and the style. I was trying to work out when you were bought by mickey. I think it was 16 years ago. You sit in the carnival corporation. You were going to interrupt me some. I think youre absolutely spot on around 1997 1998 when the acquisition took place. So, of course, now youve got this new ceo whos acting for mickey arison, arnold donald, what hes saying there are ten brand, all of you have been fiercely independent and hes going to make you work Better Together to leverage the assets that you have in return value to shareholders. My question to you would be, what have you done to help the rest of the business recently or do you stand aloof and british on your own with all the tradition . No. We need to be very, very clear about arnolds vision for how our corporation works. We have ten very distinct brands within our business and preserving the distinct identity of those brands is vital. That is what differentiates us from all other cruise corporations. Behind the scenes, how we leverage our scale, be it in our purchasing ability, be it in common system platforms, and the sheer exchange of ideas and interaction amongst the people within our business, that is what we believe is going to make an enormous difference and give us the next big step forward in growing the success and the profitability of our business. David, enjoy your celebrations tonight. Its nice to see you. David dingle joining us there from on board the queen mary 2. Thank you very much. Big valuations for profit light startups this morning as filings reveal a shift to conservative plays from big hedge funds. Jim stewart of the New York Times will talk about that in just a moment. Lot of purchases for my business. And i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase like 60,000 bonus points when i spent 5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. And i earn 5 times the rewards on internet, phone services and at Office Supply stores. 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Talk of valuations being too expensive. Air coming out of the high flying names like twitter and tesla. Ubber just reportedly gets a 10 billion valuation an pinterest 5 billion, expensive cheap, a bubble. Hes seen it all before. Jim stewart columnist at the New York Times joins us to talk about these markets. Online scrapbooking, 5 billion. Well which is it high valuations or not . Nobody gets it. These young Startup Companies you cant really value them. Its about looking at the future. I think the big number here, the big name, was whatsapp. The venture world said oh, my god were ratcheting the up the values across the board. Venture is in a world of its own. Not like the market. You see whats happened to twitter. Reality does begin to descend eventually on these stocks. So you might get a big gain, really super early investor but longer term these valuations are ridiculous. The despaisparity there, the highest since early 2000s. Seems like this is a sweet spot for the early Startup Companies to raise money for investors. They get a whole portfolio of these things. Say drilling for oil. You only have to hit really big to bring up once maybe the whole portfolio, but the average investor has to be really cautious if they dont have the resources to diversify like that. I love jim stewart. Comes on and says i want to talk about bond yields and inflation. Does anybody get this . I mean weve got the tenyear at 2 and i mean inflation at 2 and tenyear at 2. 5. Wheres the margin for error there. Who is buying this . This bond rally is utterly baffling. Im glad i dont try to time the bond market. Maybe i can help you. On reflection one of the reasons because of whats happening in europe, Major Economies are not growing, some of the Major Economies are going back into recession, so that is dragging yields down right away across the board. I think thats the issue. European central bank that may or may not come in to drive yields lower from where they are here. Also some big unanswerable questions about rush why and ukraine that has something to do with it. Right. But the stock Market Investors seem nervous about the inflation front. They were pulling out. I dont think it had much to do with First Quarter earnings. Which is history at this point, the bad weather and all that. You saw gold going down. The traditional inflation hedge went down. Mine theres a lot of disconnect from these markets. You may be right, simon, certain investors are looking at geopolitical issues, europe, u. S. Stock investors looking at Interest Rates, different frames of reference but looking for logic which is usually a mistake youre not going to find it here in my view. It is interesting to watch the correlations weve been used to seeing in these markets postfinancial crisis start to break down. What sort of message are you getting right now from the economy . Ru lo are you looking to the bond or stock market . These things work out and end up being harmonizing. You have to stay clear from the static day to day. Sometimes you will get disconnects but over time i think the logic will reassert itself. It usually does. I think the most important thing youre saying there is the frame of reference, the different people have. Those that are exclusively focused on the u. S. Economy and stock market, big institutional investors, for example, are very worried about china which is something we dont talk about so often but their fears over china are growing in the background and thats probably what is moving those bigger seas like the fixed income markets i imagine. Could be. Carl and i were talking earlier this sort of scenario is kind of what the Federal Reserve really wants. I mean they would like to see a little bit of inflation. They would like to see Interest Rates moving into a more normalized range, but normal to the average stock investor today has negative implications for these valuations. Youre going back to the ipos. Its hard to sustain and justify some of these valuations if Interest Rates start going up. I want to come back to this idea you said its some of these valuations are ridiculous for the companies that are still in venture phase. I would argue, ubber or air b and b they are real businesses with revenues and actually potential Free Cash Flow in the not too distant future, lot of investment to make and staying private longer so the growth rate is stronger. I mean, and theyre more mature when they come to the public market. I dont know if i would call it necessarily ridiculous. You know, i havent really zeroed in on their Balance Sheets an income statements exactly but i still think that at this stage theyre essentially stories. Theyre never going to be a ge when they come to market. You have like decades of predictable earnings behind them. Theres always going to be an element, high element of uncertainty which means a high element of risk. And if the story takes over, the better the story, the higher the multiples tend to get. Sort of a new model. Before we let you go want to ask about your column this week. Interesting topic, fossil fuel divestments. Fascinated by graduation time. I talked to students and they had a big win when stanford said were going to divest coal stocks. I can tell you, ive heard from people, every Investment Committee at every college and university is revisiting this issue now that stapford is doing it. Its kind of amazing a bunch of kids, whether you agree with this divisive issue, whether you agree or not, its a tribute to this country that a handful of college kids could like organize and decide to do something and suddenly theyve got a 18 billion endow mment doing what they were hoping for. Some cases canceling commencement speakers. The students have a lot of leverage these days. I dont feel quite as positive about that but i do think for investors, the energy sector, keep an eye on this movement. Its still very young but if it really gains steam youre going to see multiples go down in the energy sector. Looking forward to the column. Pulitzerprize winning columnist jim stewart of the New York Times. Still ahead a contrasting view of the subjects. Re codes kara swisher will join us from the west coast on ubber, pintere pinterest. Were back after a quick break on cnbc. Monday we enter squawk alley. The intersection of wall street and technology. Focuseded on three things, growth, operating efficiency and leverage. In the long run i expect to see us grow into large media company. How this company is going to how its always reinvented itself, done it the past two decades and will do it again. The structure of the organization of the company were building its been about the snigs a big investment on original content. 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Another part of this agreement by General Motors and nhtsa is the fact that gm has agreed to give investigators from the federal government from nhtsa full access to gms internal investigation that it is currently conducting. That investigation is conducted by a former u. S. Attorney. When mary bare ra was testifying before congress and members of Congress Said will you give us the results of your investigation she said we will re lease what we deem appropriate. Now theyre saying you will have full access as part of this agreement. Record fine of 35 million when it comes to the ignition switch recall. Back to you. Thank you very much. Thats on top, of course, the 200 million charge they announced yesterday. Weve got phils documentary on this issue sunday night, on cnbc. Lets send it over to Rick Santelli as we wrap up what has been a major week for the markets. Rick . Thanks, simon. I would like to welcome andy brenner. Thanks for taking time on the weekend. Thanks for having me. Always a pleasure. All right. You know, the first thing is a simple issue, when i listen to all the pundits talk about markets it almost hurts them to even consider the idea that the fixed income market would be a place any sane rationale investor would hang out. When i look at the best of the three stock indices its the s p is it not, up almost 1 . Now last i looked, total return, i love looking at the page in the wall street journal, total return for five years is 2. 17, 4. 1, tenyear 6. 3 . No result. This is a Rodney Dangerfield trade, isnt it . Well, rick, a lot of guys including myself thought with the tapering you would go to higher rates first, but youre going to lower rates. People have gotten very complacent, a real lack of liquidity in the marketplace and i think yesterday you pretty much saw a buying climax. I think its going to take a lot of work to get through 2. 47 on the tenyear. All right. Let me be the devils advocate. I think you meant 2. 47 to the downside. What if we did see two and a quarter percent, what kind of world would that rate depict or just out of kilter with representing fae fundamental dynamic with global or domestic economy . You might start seeing the refinancing boom coming back, home sales strengthen. You had good numbers today. We think given what mel watt said he will do with fannie and freddie the Housing Market will get easier. Youre going to see if you see those rates youre going to see a spur of housing both buying, selling and building. So that would be one positive. I think it would say a sour note about the economy and i think the economy is fine. I really do. I think the economy is fine as well. But could it be more fine, is it on a relative basis going to be adversely affected by those less fine. When i look towards europe the 2012 draghi comment about the ba zu ka and doing anything he can did get him a lot of mileage. Do you think theyre going to be able to deliver if the markets start to get fin na ki about the microphone and want to see action, do you see them delivering . I really dont, rick. I mean i think this quantitative easing thing is more of draghis moral situation. Smoke and mirrors. I dont see him doing much. Where they need the helpers in the small business, they dont need help with lower rates. Look at your rates in spain, italy, portugal and throughout europe. They dont need lower rates. These are smart guys. Theyre talking lower rates and look to the u. S. , where is big benefit. Housing is still questionable. It has to be about the euro. Want to weaken the euro and they will do anything they can, would you agree with that . Absolutely. They need a weaker euro and i dont think theyre going to get it. I have to run. Always a pleasure talking to you. Have a great weekend. Simon hobbs, back to you. Okay. Thank you very much, for that, rick. What is old is new again. 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It comes fully furnished. All you have to do is move in. Inside, this unit is 1,750 square feet. Well renovated open kitchen has granite countertops, alder cabinets, recessed lighting and highend stainless steel appliances. Three bedrooms and three bathrooms. The master bathroom boasts two sinks, custom cabinets and floortoceiling tiling. The residence is made for those who love the outdoors with access to worldclass skiing in the winter and hiking, biking, and boating in the summer. All of this for 995,000. All right. Joining us this morning, real estate super broker, dolly lens at post 9 to tell us where these are. Im from colorado. The lake shot made it look like josh is in tahoe. Mmhmm. But go ahead. And the other . I dont know. You have a guess . I was guessing jackson hole. But i dont know if it would be that cheap in jackson hole. What do you think . Dont ask me, im a foreigner. Oh, great answer. I did think denver. I did think colorado. Tahoe. Same thing. Yeah, maybe utah . I dont know, those look like the rockies. Exactly. The log cabin is in montana. Boseman, montana. I think thats how its pronounced anyway. It is, yeah. A spectacular log cabin. The other is lake tahoe. Nice. On the california side. All right. So which ones the bigger bang for your buck . Well, you know, theyre both interesting in their own respects, right . The log cabin, wow. I mean, what can you say about that . It has everything any of us has ever seen, right . Weve seen threebedroom condos, a dime a dozen everywhere, right . But this log cabin, wow. It just has everything vaulted ceilings, everything. A good boy. Close to 1 million in boseman, is that a good deal . It is a good deal, actually. By the way, Unemployment Rate in boseman is under 3 , which is unbelievable. Probably one of the lowest in the country that maybe because there arent many residents, im not sure. Its a terrific place. I know people who live there and love it. And that house is beyond spectacular. She did say it wasnt too far from the airport, which is something i was wondering. No, exactly. And even better than that, its 85 miles to yellowstone. So its closer than the hamptons. I mean, really, you have it all. Dolly, you should go out, it sounds like. That house won over my heart. And my eyes. My brain might be a little slow on this. But my heart and my eyes. And i have to tell you you think the condo is one . No, no, the log cabin. I agree. The log cabin. By a long shot. Yeah, you know, real estate im sorry, is this for someone to live or resale its a cornucopia of stories, to live, to resale. If youre sticking 1 million somewhere, you want to know you get it out some day. Unless youre going to retire to the log cabin, by would be lovely. Who retires . Nobody is retiring anymore. All right. So you like the log cabin . Log cabin wins, okay . We all agree. We all agree on that one. Yea, log cabin wins. A lot of bears at neighbors. Exactly. Something to be aware of. Horses. 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Yeah, certainly better than the premarket. What a mess. Thanks, dom. Meantime, the market is placid here. The market is unchanged. If youre just joining us this morning, heres what you missed. Announcer welcome to squawk on the street. Heres whats happened so far ill go there this weekend, all right . Ill just go back to jcpenney this weekend, because i think mikes the real deal, and if he has bargains that are promotional with product that i like, im going to be a buyer. [ bell sounds ] we have to think of a lot better opportunities to invest today than there were a month ago, because the economy is going to get better. We have ten very distinct brands within our business, and preserving the distinct identity of those brands is absolutely vital. That is what differentiates us from all other cruise corporations. Reality does begin to descend eventually on these stocks. So you might get a big gain, with a really super early investor, but longer term, the valuations are ridiculous. Morning, pinterest now worth 5 billion, uber may be twice that much. The big question is, are the Companies Really worth it . Kara swisher will weigh in. Plus, which tech company should you trust with protecting your personal data from the government . Some familiar names are on the list, but the worst offender might surprise you. The apple beats deal came out of nowhere, mostly because its a huge departure from what apple normally does. The head of marketing will help us get into the process later on. Why is amazon putting a giant orange box in the middle of downtown San Francisco . We could find out maybe next week, maybe a little longer. But in the meantime, weve got our crack team on the case, live on the scene, to investigate that in just a few minutes. All right. First up, kara swisher, coexecutive editor of re code joins us. Great to have you here. Our own jon fortt is here at post 9. Lets start off if anyone thinks tech valuations are too high, dont tell that to pinterest and uber. Uber is in talks to raise new financing that could value the company at more than 10 billion. Kara, have we crossed some line somewhere . Whats reasonable right now . Well, no, i guess if people are paying the money, thats what theyre paying. I think theyre starting to get lofty. It used to be 1 billion valuation was a big deal, and now its 10 with uber and 5 with pinterest, and so many other hot ones are getting valued. Snapchat is doing the same thing, raising money. I think theyre all worried about the competition, in ubers case lift, which is raising money and dropping prices using that money. They all feel theyre going to get while the getting is good, presumably. I guess Justin Timberlake will have to reprice the line, you know whats cool, its 10 billion now. Its not just 1 billion. These in particular dont strike us as that crazy. You look at pinterest and the data, in terms of women in the u. S. Seem to be more on pinterest than on twitter. You dont go there to talk politics. You go because theres something you want to buy or make. Its inherently commercial. Theyre starting to gear up commerce. Uber, at the same time, not just a black car company. I think of this being a logistics, realtime dispatch company in urban areas in particular, and as am sdplon and other ecommerce giants are looking to do their own delivery, what uber does, the data they have, could be increasingly important. Uber also has a very developed infrastructure. They have cars that they lease. They have a network of drivers. And this is a company that Smoke Signals would indicate is making a lot of money, just a couple of weeks ago in new york, kara, there started popping up the ads on the back of buses recruiting drivers, saying 5,000 guaranteed in your first month. That appears to me to be a company that can guarantee those type of earnings, then its making more than that. No, its making a lot of money. Its one of the few think about it. The first time you use uber, you pay them, what, did 35 or whatever it costs. Thats not very Many Companies that you pay immediately and keep paying for the use of it. Pinterest is a very powerful company, a catalog company, online in a lot of ways, but hypercharged. I interviewed the head of williams sonoma, and she said, pinterest is the way people got to the product. Its a directleads business. It would be interesting to see if google snaps it up or Something Like that, or amazon, because the leads it brings to commerce are really that business alone is very powerful. Jon, in terms of the Capital Raising itself, kara mentions concerns about the competition. Obviously, it makes sense. Are they doing this because they see the ipo window fading . Well, i dont know if pinterest is really that close to that right now. I mean, theyve just started to show that they have a business to start generating revenue. They probably want to do that for a few quarters before they Start Talking ipo. I dont even know if theyre trying to make this window in particular. Uber, a different story. Theyve been very outspoken about how good that business is. What do you think . We heard from jim cramer, of course, in the 9 00 hour. He was talking about his interactions with the ceo, and talking about drawing this business model, i took uber to a meeting uptown, we passed by Goldman Sachs and my uber driver said, i call them every single day asking for shares in this company, and no one ever picks up my call. Do you think this Company Goes Public soon . No, no. No, absolutely not. I dont think so. And pinterest, the same thing. I dont think its in this window, this year, maybe next year. I think theyre busy growing. They have plenty of money, great backers, and they need to expand and work on operations around the world. They just opened in abu dhabi. Im working on an article for vanity fair, and so, i spent a lot of time with them. Its an Interesting Company for sure. It really is in a lot of ways the real deal compared to a lot of them. Its not an Internet Company per se, but it really leverages the internet. Hes already Battle Tested in a lot of different ways. Hes a tough guy. Hes a tough guy. Yeah. Next up, which tech company should you trust when it comes to protecting your data from the government . According to a new study from the Electronic Frontier foundation, not snapchat. It earned one out of six stars, the lowest ranking. Nine companies received all six stars, including facebook, microsoft, google, and twitter. Pretty interesting, snapchats defense, jon, they dont have the data to turn over to the government when asked. Or maybe they do. Maybe they just found it, i dont know. Apple earned top ranking here. I think its important to point out this is specifically about how easy it is for the government to get data from these companies, whether they fight for privacy in congress, whether they require a warrant to turn over data, whether they notify users that the governments trying to get their data. It doesnt necessarily mean just for privacy in general these companies arent keeping your data. It doesnt mean that their security measures are all that great. Its very specific. This is about the government and how quickly these companies cough it up. So obviously, snapchat is the worst, but when we look at the chart, you see amazon, at t, foursquare, companies that actually do have a lot of your data, especially as theyre getting more into the cloud comcast. Not in such a great rating, either. It has three stars, as well. Kara, im wondering what your take on this is, with a company like amazon trying to build out its Cloud Business and has, you know, two stars and questions about how easy it is for the government to get into some of that data . Well, thats for the case. Some Companies Like twitter very vehemently defend against government requests, and others dont. Amazon doesnt. You know, comparatively, i guess, in this list. You know, its interesting. Its good for people to be aware of what companies are doing, and various companies are going to do various practices. In the case of snapchat, you know, they put out a lot of other problems getting their technology together. And so, i think probably need more management going on there. It happened to facebook in its early days. That doesnt excuse them by any means, but, you know, this again is a government request thing, and Certain Companies have gotten very good at resisting government requests for information. While we have you guys, we should mention truecar has opened for trading over at the nasdaq, up 13 . Priced last night at 9. Of course, below the range, which was 12 too 14. Ceos going to join us first here on cnbc a little bit later on. Online car shopping and research site. The low ball of the ipo price is what got peoples attention this morning. Well, its in good company. A lot of companies that have gone public in this market have priced below the ipo price. But i have to give credit to the underwriters here. When you know that the demand is in a certain level, you price it conservatively, because what you do want to see on that chart is green on trading day. The worst thing you can do, price it in the middle of the range, even though demand isnt there, and it flops. Yeah, goldman and rbc lieding that charge. What is amazon hiding in a giant orange locker in the middle of San Francisco . Nobodys for sure. Thats why we sent josh lipton to find out. Josh . Yeah, carl, its the big mystery in San Francisco this morning. What exactly is inside this giant orange locker behind me . Heres what we do know. Its amazons locker. You can see amazons logo splashed across it. Theres another little sign on there that says, hello, my name is giant. Now, i can tell you the locker, its big. Its big enough to accommodate a car. You could easily get an suv in there or a minivan. In fact, some guys came by a few minutes ago and applied this nissan decal to the locker, as well as this other decal that reads giantlocker. We know amazon, of course, already operating the delivery lockers in different cities. Apparently, there is going to be a promotional event here today. I can actually see some cameras here. And theyre professional cameras, the kind of cameras you would use if youre shooting a commercial. Apparently, people will come by and use the lockers. Well stick around, see what else we can find and bring that news as soon as we get it. Guys, back to you. Why does it thank you, josh. Josh lipton in San Francisco. Why does every Big Tech Company need a giant mystery out west . The barge first with google. Now this. I think theres a viral Marketing Manager actually inside that locker. You know . Getting incentive pay. At first, i was thinking, okay, maybe bikes, a lot of people in San Francisco ride bikes. Maybe suitcases, people take the redeye out there, as well. If youre going to meetings, you could drop off a bigger package in there. Of course, the nissan decal really doesnt leave much to the imagination after that. You have to think that thats going to be storing your car, right . Why else would they be sponsoring it . Kara, you have some thoughts . I dont know. Its drones. Its all the money that pinterest and uber are getting, piles of cash. Its Donald Sterlings sense of decency . I dont know where that went. I dont know. It could be anything. You only need a mailbox for that. Yeah, it went somewhere, right . Who knows . Is it out of character for amazon . No, its a stunt. Its a stunt. Its a stunt. Its a stunt. They did it with the drones. They do it all the time. And we fall for it, and here we are putting a picture up. Im going to put an orange box in the middle of something and see what happens. I dont know. You can fit a dozen viral Marketing Managers in there. I dont think its entirely out of character. These sort of stunts are common these days, particularly for tech companies. Get a little buzz going. Giant locker. I think radioshack kind of backed away from the amazon locker program. The lockers will be increasingly important for amazon and others as they try to push more products into urban areas, and deliver when people arent home. They dont you are all about the logistics. Youre about the urban logistics to this. I think thats really, really key. The lockers in the stores havent worked out as spectacularly as they can. And theyre kicking amazon out, which is why they need these things. All right, kara, thanks for the laugh and the information. Have a great weekend. Squawk on the tweet as you know monday, this hour will launch as squawk alley, the destination for all things tech and innovation. Weve been doing it for a while, but weve want to change the name. Well do it like market cap big, attentionworthy viral stunt should we pull off . Tweet us squawkstreet. Well air some of the ideas later in the hour. I was thinking maybe if gopro ended up going public this month, ill rappel off the wall of the Stock Exchange with a gopro. But that wont be the case. Kara, if you have ideas, by the way, feel free to weigh in. Im not sure. Im going to think all day about it, you know. Giant carl outside. Yeah, yeah. I sense some sarcasm from kara. Yeah. Im on it. Im on it, because i have nothing else to do. Im on it. All right, kara, thanks. Well see you much more during this hour. When we come back after the short break, the department of transportation set to announce that gm will pay a 35 million fine regarding its ignition switch recall. That should be announced at a press conference in just a few minutes. When it happens, well bring you there live for all of the latest news. We also want to bring you back to shares of truecar. They rose initially after they opened for trading. T. R. U. E. Is the ticker. Now up 9 after going public moments ago. Should you buy the stock this morning . The ceo will make his case when we come back. Announcer post 9 is sponsored by fidelity investments. The most Free Research reports, customizable charts, powerful screening tools, and guaranteed onesecond trades. And at the center of it all is a surprisingly low price just 7. 95. In fact, fidelity gives you lower trade commissions than schwab, td ameritrade, and etrade. 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That moment you decide to buy. Thats your moment of trulia. You could win 50 thousand dollars for your next home. Visit trulia. Com slash win today. Some breaking news. We are awaiting a News Conference from the department of transportation on its investigation into the cobalt recall at General Motors. As we wait for some details, lets get to our own phil lebeau who prefaced all of this with news about this 35 million fine. Phil, what theyre saying is some unprecedented oversight by regulators, as well. Right. And the thing to keep in mind here, carl, is that in this agreement and were just getting a first look at it General Motors is telling the federal government, you can have full access to our internal investigation. That investigation is being conducted by a former u. S. Attorney. They expect to have it wrapped up within the next couple of weeks. Remember when mary barra went on capitol hill and testified, a number of members of Congress Said, hey, will you turn over your report to us, and she said, well look at it and well share what information we think is important to be shared with members of congress. Well, now, the federal government is saying, huhuh, youre giving it all to us. So that is the most significant part here. The 35 million fine. Nhtsa will say its a record fine. Yes, it is a record fine. Its the most they can fine an automaker. In the end 35 million for a multibilliondollar company, its not a huge impact financially. They had already agreed to pay what some saw as a comically low fine, phil, of 7,000 a day. Right. Thats part of and that continues for not sharing all of the information for the 107 questions that nhtsa asked them for. The maximum fine is 7,500 a day. And so, thats you know, at the end of the day, people look at this and say, okay, another 7,500. But thats the max fine thats allowed. What sounds interesting, as well, is this notion that theyre going to have to revise their own internal reviews as they regard to safety inhouse. Right. And theyre already starting to do that. Jeff boyar, who is basically the safety czar thats been appointed by mary barra, a long time gm engineer who is now in charge of all of the safety issues at gm, hes been going to washington on a regular basis and meeting with representatives from nhtsa, as has mark royce, who is the worldwide leader for Vehicle Development at General Motors. So theyve been in constant conversation with nhtsa. I think what this is is nhtsa saying to them, we want to know how youre going to revamp your oversights of any safetyrelated issues and how youre going to ensure in the future that you dont have another situation like youve had with the ignition switch recall. Of course, weve seen some highlevel retirements, phil, in the past few days. Right. Jim frederico, who was the highestlevel executive, with safety in his title. Right. Now gone from the company. As a lot of the pressure now obviously focuses in on mary barra. And there have been a number of executives who have worked in the Engineering Department at General Motors or who had some connection with the ignition switch who have quietly been moved into other positions. And thats interesting. I think thats an indication that mary barra is taking steps necessary to make it clear to the federal government that this is not just business as usual, that there will be changes made. But theyre not going to trumpet it. Theyre going to, as quietly as possible, move people either into other positions or if people have the opportunity to leave General Motors, i dont think theyre going to fight it and say, no, you have to stay with the company. As we wait for them to set the mikes there, phil in washington. Lets think back to the most recent auto sales numbers. Sixnine was a beat above the fiveseven expectation. Mary barra has said the recall got a lot of attention that other things have gone right. And we havent really seen, i guess would you say, immediate sales fallout and i dont think we will, carl. I dont think we will. When you go back and look at what happened with toyota, there was a bit of an impact, not a huge one, but a bit of an impact in terms of market share. Because you were talking about a recall at that time related to unintended acceleration with vehicles on the lot being sold. This recall involves vehicles that were built between 2003 and 2007, and then it was extended to models built through 2010. Theyre gone. Theyre not even being built anymore. So for the person who is going out and considering buying a General Motors vehicle, this recall, im sure its perhaps something that theyre aware of, or theyre considering, but its not like theyre looking at a current model and saying, is it under recall . Because its not. Its in the past in that regard. And i think thats reflected in the sales numbers. Does this strike you as a shift in the way nhtsa and d. O. T. Are going to approach automaker safety . Yes. And i think youre going to see them continue to be much more aggressive. Now, there have already been some in detroit who are saying that there is this hypersensitivity amongst the automakers about recalls, and, therefore, youve seen a flurry of recalls. We always see this after a highprofile case. The real test will be two years, three years from now when the spotlight is not on nhtsa, and its not on the automakers for a big recall crisis. Will they be as vigilant . Because we saw this after the fordfirestone issue in 2000 and 2001. We saw it after toyota in 2009. And were seeing it now. The question is, will there be this vigilance on the part of the automakers two, three years from now . All right. Well tap dance more until they start the press conference in washington. Phil, nice job. Thanks. Elsewhere in the auto industry, watching an ipo, truecar, the Online Shopping service, opening higher in its debut on the nasdaq. The company is backed by microsoft cofounder paul allen. It priced at 9 a share, below the expected range of 12 to 14. Even so, in todays trade, its up by 15 . Here first on cnbc, fresh off ringing the opening bell at the nasdaq, is Scott Painter. The founder and ceo of truecar. Im hearing the presser is starting, so well go back to washington and well get back to scott as it happens. Safety of the traveling public. It always has been. Achieving that goal isnt easy. It takes commitment from everyone with a stake in our Transportation System. And we know no one is perfect. But what we cannot tolerate, what we will never accept is a person or a company that knows danger exists and says nothing, literally silence can kill. Back in february, General Motors issued a recall of the Chevrolet Cobalt and other models due to a defect in their ignition switches. The defect led the air bags not to work when they should. Thats what gm told us in february. But what we now know is that gm knew about this issue years before this past february. Since at least november of 2009, gm has had information linking ignition switch problems with air bags failing to deploy. They had that information and they told no one. They didnt tell nhtsa. And they didnt tell their customers. In the meantime, those customers were driving cars with a dangerous safety defect. Crashes happened and people died. Had gm acted differently, perhaps some of this tragedy might have been averted. Our department searched for a defect would have certainly taken on a different course. We looked at this issue not once, but twice in 2007 and 2010 searching for the data to justify a full investigation. Had gm told us then what they told us back in february, things no doubt would have proceeded differently. But the fact remains gm did not act and did not alert us in a timely manner. What gm did was break the law. They failed to meet their Public Safety obligations. And today, they have admitted as much. In fact, today i can announce that for failing to report a safety defect in a timely man r manner, General Motors has agreed to pay a 35 million civil penalty, which is the maximum penalty under the law. It is also the highest civil penalty ever paid as a result of a nhtsa investigation into violations stemming from a recall. But even more importantly, todays agreement doesnt just penalize gm for inaction in the past, it also looks to the future to ensure that gms existing cars on the road are safe and that vehicles they manufacture Going Forward are safe, as well. Thats because the agreement includes unprecedented oversight requirements, ensuring that gm takes the steps necessary to change its Safety Culture so Something Like this never happens again. Acting administrator friedman will have more on the specifics of this investigation and the agreement in a moment. But for now, let me just say, together these penalties should put all automakers on notice that there is no excuse and zero tolerance for failing to notify the federal government when a defect puts safety at risk. And to make that point clearer, d. O. T. Has sent the grow america act up to capitol hill which would raise the maximum penalty for offenses like this from 35 million to 300 million. So our work doesnt end here. Well continue working towards a safer gm, a safer auto industry, and a safer Transportation System for the United States of america. Thank you all again, and ill now turn the podium over to david. All right, that is the transportation secretary anthony foxx talking about that fine for gm, as part of the Consent Decree as it relates to the recall of the cobalts. Phil lebeau, your reaction . Not surprising. We knew the information nhtsa was gathering from General Motors made it very clear that gm knew about this for sometime. And they said it pointblank, gm knew at least in 2009 that there was a link between ignition switches failing and air bags not deploying, and obviously, there are 13 deaths related to this defect. So it was very blunt language. Thats what we expected from the d. O. T. What is interesting is that we still have the doj investigation out there, carl, and you can bet that if there is some kind of settlement or a fine at the end of that doj investigation, which is a possibility, you can bet its not going to be 35 million. Just look at toyota. I think people are looking at that as sort of a more of a benchmark of what we might expect if doj does hand down a criminal penalty against General Motors. Thats a departure from where we are right now, for sure. You bet. 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Truecar, the online auto shopping service, opening higher in its debut on the nasdaq. The companys backed by microsoft cofounder paul allen, priced at 9, below the expected range of 12 to 14. Here first on cnbc, fresh off of ringing the opening bell at the nasdaq, Scott Painter, the founder and ceo of truecar. Scott, good morning to you. Good morning. Thanks for having me. This kind of action takes some of the sting out of the pricing. How do you feel . Its really great to reach the milestone of becoming a public company, and were looking forward to just producing Great Results for our shareholders and employees Going Forward. Scott, the usaa opens, what, around 26 of truecar . 43 of the vehicles that you guys moved last year, i believe, came from matching from them. Is that a problem . How are you going to expand beyond that massive influence of that one organization has over the company . Were a tenyearold company. We run the auto buying programs for most of our Nations Trust marks and Large Membership organizations. So its not just usaa. Its also american express, consumer reports, aaa, geico, progressive, and many, many others. And so, what we find in those organizations is that trust really does get transferred in the form of goodwill into the buying of a car. And so, really our partnership with usaa, i think, underscores our commitment to really making car buying a better experience. Theyre very committed to their members. Usaa members in total buy about 220,000 cars a month, and about 17,000 of those were done through the truecar platform last month. Weve still got a long way to go. Its not really a concentrated customer for us. It is a big one and very important one. Where are you directing most of the proceeds, scott . I think as a company we really want to get to the point where we can grow our brand. Today, not a lot of people know about truecar. We represent about 2. 3 of the newcar market in the u. S. It was originated on truecar through the 8,000 dealers, which represent one out of every four dealers in the u. S. We want to grow that awareness. We want to expand our reach and become more a part of the overall carbuying process, you know, across all sectors. You think youre coming into public life at a time where the longterm trajectory for auto sales is going to start an upswing . Well, i think that the longterm prospects for auto are great. I think, you know, the notion that, you know, the markets are very cyclical and have seasonality, thats obviously a reality. But were really focused on helping people save time and money when they buy a car. And we really focus on that, even when times are tough. People want to save money. So whether car sales are up or down, we feel the opportunity for truecar to redefine the future of car buying is an opportunity. You were an early advisor to tesla. Youre a friend of musks. You drive a model s. Yes. Of course, you know about the friction between the nationality statewide Dealer Networks and tesla. I assume you think they should be allowed in . Would that be healthy for the Dealer Network and the company . I think really our focus is serving franchise dealers. We make car buying, which is normally fraught with a lot of anxiety, a really great experience, and we do that by arming the consumer with powerful information on the front end, information theyve never seen before about what others pay for a car, and it makes a firsttime car shopper an expert in under 60 seconds. So im not clear, though. Does that mean the dealers should let tesla in or not . Im not involved with tesla, so i cant comment one way or the other. I think tesla has a very compelling product, and i think that theyve got their own direct challenges in term it is of how they get that product out. Were focused on serving franchise dealers and how they relate to the modern customer who wants to buy a car a modern way. What a day, on especially a day when gm is in the news, and youre in the news. Thank you for taking the time. Congratulations. Thank you. The ceo and cofounder of truecar. Simon hobbs is going to wrap up the global markets. You know the stability on this side of the atlantic has basically allowed the european banks pummelled yesterday particularly in italy, spain, portugal to come back quite strongly. So green on the screen. Car registrations now slowing down, sales slowing down to a fivemonth low. The real concern is those economies that are contracting that we spoke about yesterday. Notably, italy, also the netherlands, finland back into recession, and whether the ecb is too far behind the curve. Importantly, this week one of the key bets so far this year failed. And that was was that the europe european sovereign debt markets would continue to rise and yields fall. Yesterday, we went into reverse on that. You can see it on the weekly chart. In italy, the yield spiking there. You see it also in spain. You see it also in portugal. And tomorrow, of course, portugal exits its bailout, its official bailouts, it gets its economic sovereignty back, still saddled with 300 billion of debt. But the Prime Minister of portugal in an exclusive interview with cnbc says, yes, there may be volatility on the bond markets at the moment, but they are offering now longterm stability. Take a listen. Portugal, this year, will present a primary surplus, and for next year and i think until 2018 or 19 well present the same path. In the meantime, i should mention to you that the Financial Times in a completely unrelated subject, got hold of an internal video overnight from within Deutsche Bank from the cohead of the Investment Bank where hes explicitly warning people about their behavior. Take a listen to this. Some of you are falling way short of our established standards. Lets be clear. Our reputation is everything. Being boastful, indiscreet and vulgar is not okay. It will have serious consequences for your career, and i have lost patience on this issue. Colin fan, the cleancut canadian, who many think will be a future ceo of the Investment Bank, if not the bank overall. Reading between the lines there. What hes trying to get over to people within the Investment Bank is all their communications now email, phone conversations are being actively monitored because of the scandals that theyve had and the Regulatory Environment theyre in. Hes obviously trying to head off further trouble. Any trader who doesnt know that isnt paying attention. Thanks, simon. When we come back, going behind apples thinking behind the rumored beats deal. We talk to the form he head of marketing and founder of electronic arts, trip hawkins, with us in just a moment. Welcome back. As consumers await a conclusion to apples rumored 3. 2 billion deal for beats electronics, does this signal a new strategy for apple ahead of the Developers Conference . Our next guest has insight, head of the marketing in the early years of apple, and the latest venture is if you can. Trip, thank you for joining us. First of all, this game, if you can, really interesting. Its all about social and Emotional Learning for kids, trying to get dogs and cats in this kind of fictional world to get along again. Its been in the app store for a couple of months. How is it doing . Its doing fantastic. Weve had 300,000 downloads and 90 of consumers that have reviewed the game have given it five stars out of five and are very enthusiastic about it. Wow. What kind of revenue is it generating . We havent started charging for it. Its a free trial period. Its a service you can subscribe to like a magazine, and we move the curriculum and story forward every month, so well start offering that Subscription Service next month. So youre part of apples present in the app store, doing games, which is your specialty, of course, and youre part of apples past. What do you think of the rumored beating deal . Not very applelike in the recent trajectory. But any way you can see it working well . This is an amazing brand. So i admire apple for stepping up and taking that kind of action. I think its a very interesting move. Apple really changed the way that human beings have a relationship with computers, and in some ways thats maybe the most historic thing about the age that we live in. And apple really transformed that. I was delighted and had a lot of fun being a part of that. And i think, you know, who knows what will happen in the future. It feels like the major Computing Devices have been invented, and well see what apple does next. Youre coming from an era when it was all organic. This would be bringing it in from the outside. Do you see a problem with that . No, Big Companies need to think outside the box, sometimes literally. You know, youre inside your own four calls. Get out there and see what other people are doing. A lot of the innovation and disruption often is happening in Smaller Companies that are disrupting the space. Talk to me about gaming. Weve had really interesting moves over the past several months sony doing pretty well with the ps4. Microsoft over the past few days trying to make a box with xbox one, dropped to the lower end way of they sell it, dropped the price by 100 bucks. Whats happening in gaming . Its driving so much commerce, so many device sales. Whats going to happen next in gaming thats really going to push things forward . Well, what were doing with if you can company, a good illustration of this, because were on a tablet. And within a few years, everybodys going to have a tablet. You know, there were over 1 billion smart devices, smartphones and tablets sold last year. Its just cranking. This is the new kind of flattening out a bit, the tablets has. You think theres still room to run . Actually, ipads flattening out a little bit, tablets are not. Okay. And other devices similar, like chrome books, are really hot right now. Its a different user experience. Its very convenient way to use the computer, everything is connected over the air with the internet. And i think its time now for us to recognize that everybodys thats growing up is a digital native. Theyre expecting and accustomed to using these kinds of devices, and its time to innovate new services. Our game if is kind of a flagship and a new wave, because were trying to take serious curriculum and assessment of learning of that curriculum and tie it in with really fun game play. Every kid is playing a game now. And thats where their attention is. Thats where their motivation is. And thats the best way to transform learning. Youre talking to parents of young kids. We know exactly what youre talking about. And parents want whats best for their kids, thats why i think theres a great chance here for parents and teachers to see a whole category develop of new kinds of tablet content like if that helps them curate whats on the devices, because we can see the development too. Weve had so many gaming discussions since king went public here a few months ago. And everybody wants you to have a hit. But if you have a hit, they say, why do you only have one hit, right . And how can that be replicated . Is there an answer to that in terms of the model when it comes to game makers . Its funny you mention that, because one of the reasons we call our game if, its not a noun or verb, it was easier to get a trademark. You need to assume that people need to remember a name, and theyre going to be using search features, whether theyre in google or in the app store, to find things. And youre going to learn about things through viral media, through your friends, and clicking on things and tapping on things and getting a chance to try things for free. This is really the big breakthrough in digital media. Remember the days when you used to get in a car and go to a store and pick up a videotape, or buy a video game if . Basically, its happening through the cloud and onto the billions of new screens and you get to try stuff for free. Thats a marketers dream. Yeah. You get to try things for free. Maybe were entering an era where well tell kids screen time is okay. Its making you a better person. Trip, thank you for joining us. My pleasure. Great stuff. 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Coming up at the top of the hour, back from vegas and live from the new york Stock Exchange, closing out a tough week for the markets with hedge fund heavyweights firing a warning shot. But are they right . Laslo birinyi, a legendary investor is here, and hes not worried. Well find out in an exclusive interview. Theres a lot of noise out there. Is picking horses like picking stocks . Well take you live to pimlico in baltimore, where well get the traders preakness plays, all straight ahead on the the half. Carl, well see you in a bit. Well find out if the blackjack tables were good to you. I think i left my voice in vegas. Some things do stay there. Lets get to the cme group. Rick santelli . Wrapping up a friday, theres so many things i consider important. Lets start out with china. Many are talking about if china gets a little better, it will make a huge difference. I dont disagree. One of the areas many are focusing on copper. Lets throw up that chart of copper for a year. You can definitely see copper has improved. Theres a myth about copper and id like to debug this myth. Here is a twoyear chart, 08 to 10 of the Dow Jones Industrials average in the black line and copper in the red line. You can clearly see that copper did a lot Better Holding on before the crash hit, and if you really looked at the differential there, the spread, it wasnt a great indicator. So i caution that we all look to copper to be the sentinel commodity, but i think chinas taken commodities to a new level, introduced a much larger speculation, with all of the warehousing and using collateral for loans. I think it ends up like gold. Its really hard to relegate the fundamentals to that commodity. If you want a commodity that i think is at least a better picture, something happened today that is important. We had benchmark 62 iron ore hit a 20month low today, and the price is right around 100. Thats the within id Pay Attention to. Now, well finish up the week everybody is talking about Interest Rates. Lets keep it simple. Okay . We talked many times about how the first five weeks of the year, you basically went from a 3. 03 yield beginning of the year in january down to a 2. 57, which stood as the low yield up until a couple of days ago. So basically, from january to february 3rd, like four and a half weeks, we did the biggest drop of the year. And then we went sideways for three months. This is very key. Because many are saying, well, you know, if we get back, were not going to trade under 2. 46, 2. 47, thats not the way to look at it. The entire trade was 2. 80. We went over the retracement, 2. 77, off by a factor of three boy basis points. You look at the last break of 2. 57. Heres the key, trading Interest Rates right now, stay long looking for lower rates until you get a close above 2. 60. Could it be any simpler than that . And one final note here. When it comes to looking towards europe right now, much of the activity thats pushed those southern securities lower is the notion of getting in front of what looked like qe or what looks like imf involvement. If they dont deliver, youre going to see those rates really spike. Carl, back to you. You got that right. Thanks so much, Rick Santelli. When we come back, we know whats in the amazon locker. Announcer monday, we enter squawk alley. The intersection of wall street and technology. Focused on three things growth, operating efficiency, and operating leverage. In the long run, you know, i expect to see us grow into very large media company. Thats how this company is going its how its always reinvented itself, how its done it the past two decades and how it will do it again. The structure of the organization, the company were building, for me its about the mission. Its a really big investment on original content, no question. Announcer it all starts monday at 11 00 a. M. Eastern. You probably know xerox as the company thats all about printing. But did you know we also support hospitals using Electronic Health records for more than 30 million patients . Or that our Software Helps over 20 million smartphone users remotely configure email every month . Or how about processing nearly 5 billion in electronic toll payments a year . In fact, todays xerox is working in surprising ways to help companies simplify the way work gets done and life gets lived. With xerox, youre ready for real business. All right. Heres a question we asked you this morning. What is amazon hiding in this giant orange locker in the middle of San Francisco . Youll see it eventually. It has the giantlocker on the side, and the nissan logo. The nissan and amazon had teamed up for stunts before, for the versa in a large corrugated box. Today, our producer emails there is a car in the box, a red one, saw it through the back door. As we see the latest stunt from amz, jon. Yeah, and this doesnt mean amazon is going to start selling cars in boxes. Theyve done this before. Its just kind of a nice way to get out the fact, yeah, we deliver stuff in lockers and nissan is along for the ride. I did like your theory earlier, which might be proven to be correct, its another play in storing moving goods along the distribution change in urban settings, right in. Theyve got to do it. The packages get swiped from the front door. Everybodys dealt with those issues. Its a hassle calling back and forth to amazon. They can lock it down, all the better. Yeah, well keep our eye on that. Fun times in San Francisco. Were days away from the launch of squawk alley and were asking you for ideas. What attentiongrabbing viralworthy stunt should we try to pull off for the debut on monday . Tweet us and well discuss your ideas later on. Were back in just a minute. Up. A short word thats a tall order. Up your game. Up the ante. And if you stumble, you get back up. Up isnt easy, and we ought to know. Were in the business of up. Everyday delta flies a quarter of Million People while investing billions improving everything from booking to baggage claim. Were raising the bar on flying and tomorrow we will up it yet again. Predibut, manufacturings a prettin the United States do. Means advanced technology. We learned that Technology Allows us to be craft oriented. No ones losing their job. Theres no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. The technology is actually creating new jobs. Siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done. All right. Squawk on the tweet this morning, weve been asking you, because at this hour well officially launch as squawk alley, renovation for tech through the lens, the destination all things tech. We wanted to kick it off big like whatsappvalue big. We have been asking what stunt we should try to pull off. Brian writes, have the hosts land on set via special delivery by amazon drones. Carl should jump off the building. Noah says, have the snl crew sit in and do a parody, which would be keeping in the comcast way. We would love the snl guys to do that. Will they actually expect us to do something now . I dont know. Producers are leading the charge. All right. Were about a minute away from the top of the hour. Markets have been interesting all morning long. We havent discussed retailers for most of the hour, but nordstroms is the best performing s p component. 72 cents, a beat by 4 cents. Comps are up 3. 3, looking for a partner in the credit card receivables, which is one reason for the jump. And jcpenney, too, up 19 in the premarket. Not quite that much right now. But comps up 6. 2. Margins were higher. April, the first month in 30 with positive comps. And theyre going to end the year with about 2 billion in cash. So some of the death march stories weve seen on jcp coming to an end. And the Credit Facility helps, as kayla pointed out yesterday afternoon, shorts getting squeezed there. A lot of people still negative, but theyre doing better than people expected, nonetheless. Get some rest this weekend, because youll need it for monday and the launch of squawk alley. As we hit noon time, lets get to fasttime at post 9. Carl, thank you very much. An interesting market to talk about today. You guys have a great weekend. Well see you on the other side. Welcome to the halftime show. Heres todays playbook as we return from vegas to here at the new york Stock Exchange. Danger zone. Hedge fund heavyweights revealing theyre biting nails about this market. Should you . Still a bull. Legendary investor laslo birinyi isnt scared, and hes to tell us why. Whale watching. The biggest Money Managers piling into which stocks. The lineup, stephanie link, mike murphy, jim leventhal, and we couldnt pull him out of vegas, but still made it to the studio, jon najarian. Only one of us had to rough it back to new york . Howd you get that assignment out there . Well, judge, somebody has to do the dirty work, and usually