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you know the russian military well. does the world have a good sense of what their current capability is? >> no, they do not. they are looking at numbers, john, and that's a great question. i was thinking about it today. during desert storm -- and yes i am that old -- i was a young major -- and when 7th corps, which i was a part of, they had 140,000 troops in saudi arabia. 140,000, four divisions, bunch of calgary regiments and some artillery. the corps commander, general franks, put those troops and all their vehicles in an attack formation and rehearsed the attack into iraq. we have not seen that with the russian forces. and truthfully, they have not maneuvered as a large-scale forgs. now, that is not saying as -- as steve just said, that's not saying they can't do it but i got to tell you, if they do attack, writ large with 100,000 plus troops in ukraine -- a large country with 40 million people -- it's gonna be ugly not for the ukrainians, although certainly it would be for them,

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