he literally was that guy, who everyone loved. so much more needs to be done to normalize the conversation about mental health, not just in our profession. grappling with mental-health issues should not be deemed as weak -- as a weakness. if anything, it's a strength. why is there such stigma around mental health in the police -- and look, there's stigma around mental health in all -- you know, throughout society. but why, in policing, considering the amount of stress and, as you said, as you so eloquently laid out for us, what police officers face, the situations they face every single day? >> well, you know, it's part of the culture of policing. you know, i have been around a long time. back in my day, when i was working the street as an officer, i mean, you know, if something happened, you know, suck it up and keep moving. it didn't matter what it was. and so, you know, a lot of that is still present, unfortunately. and then, you have officers that are, you know, just afraid of losing their jobs. if they admit that they're having some psychological issues.
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