armed himself in the back of that van is something that freddie gray's family strongly disagrees with. in this case, common sense dictates that freddie gray did not receiver his own spinal cord. whether it was outside the van or inside the van mr. gray did not receiver his own spinal cord. >> they're citing another prisoner who was in the back of the police van. and a prisoner that said he could hear fredy gray, but not see him. he's the one saying that gray was trying to hurt himself. so he just completely dismiss that? >> i think what we have to do is place this in context. when you place it in contest, we have to keep in mind just a few days ago, the baltimore police department released information saying this prisoner didn't hear very much of anything and now a few days later, oh, no, this very same prisoner did hear mr.